Comrade Obama - by Hugo the comedian

[Beskar]

Chavez nationalized the assets so the money went to the people, opposed to the pockets of rich people in other countries.

[Vladimir]

He's sooo cute!

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p...059.html#crime

SAFETY AND SECURITY: Violent crime in Venezuela is pervasive, both in the capital, Caracas, and in the interior. The country’s overall per capita murder rate is cited as one of the highest in the world. Kidnapping is another serious concern. The Venezuelan National Counter Kidnapping Commission was created in 2006, and since then, official statistics have shown an alarming 78 percent increase in the number of reported kidnappings. Surveys show that the overwhelming majority of kidnappings are not reported to the police. Armed robberies take place in broad daylight throughout the city, including areas generally presumed safe and frequented by tourists. Well-armed criminal gangs operate with impunity, often setting up fake police checkpoints. Investigation of all crime is haphazard and ineffective. Only a very small percentage of crimes result in trials and convictions.

For balance:

http://www.socialismtoday.org/117/venezuela.html

THE RECENT article by Tony Saunois on Venezuela (Socialism Today No.115, February 2008) correctly points out that the blight of crime there "is a critical question". Many media reports focus on crime in one form or another, whether it is the murder rate in Caracas, the latest kidnapping, or another prison riot. As Tony comments "violent crime is now seen as a major issue as the government is seen as having failed to deal with it".



Must be those capitalists huh?

[Caius]

Gotta love how Comrade Hugo believes in Socialism when he has a greedy for nationalizing foreign companies, like every Capitalist with a multinational has.

Chavez seeks to create a country where there is not opposition. Like ol' snowed Russian minds of Sovietism. He will fail, and hopefully there will be the deschavization of the Country of Venezuela and death will make Venezuela free of the damn curse of SOCIALISM.

[JAG]

Gotta love how Comrade Hugo believes in Socialism when he has a greedy for nationalizing foreign companies, like every Capitalist with a multinational has.

Chavez seeks to create a country where there is not opposition. Like ol' snowed Russian minds of Sovietism. He will fail, and hopefully there will be the deschavization of the Country of Venezuela and death will make Venezuela free of the damn curse of SOCIALISM.

Absolute and utter garbage. You should be ashamed to utter such filth. Disgraceful.

[Kralizec]

Absolute and utter garbage. You should be ashamed to utter such filth. Disgraceful.

Wel...

- Chavez has cracked down strikes in nationalized industries, and disbanded labour unions that are critical of the government

- Chavez' party in the national assembly has given itself the ability to sack and appoint judges at will with a simple majority

- Chavez had the list of all the signatures on a referendum to recall him publicized on the internet. Several government agencies used the lists to fire political dissidents

I personally think these issues are very worrying, but you're a socialist so you might not agree.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Wel...

- Chavez has cracked down strikes in nationalized industries, and disbanded labour unions that are critical of the government

- Chavez' party in the national assembly has given itself the ability to sack and appoint judges at will with a simple majority

- Chavez had the list of all the signatures on a referendum to recall him publicized on the internet. Several government agencies used the lists to fire political dissidents

I personally think these issues are very worrying, but you're a socialist so you might not agree.

Absolutely right there.

Chavez, as much as I would love for him to succeed, is not succeeding. He is no true socialist. He simply wants power and money to himself, using populism as a guise. Most important is his stance on labour unions, which he made all but useless. Not socialist behaviour if you ask me. He is afraid they will spoil his plans.

[Caius]

Absolute and utter garbage. You should be ashamed to utter such filth. Disgraceful.

Utter garbage is that Hugo Chavez Frias, president of Venezuela bought a part of Techint, which is the only damn argentinian multinational. It is utter garbage that Venezuela is going to be included in Mercosur. Absolute garbage is that he took away liberties of the people, the liberties that people like Jose de San Martin y Simon Bolivar fought for two centuries ago! How can you call utter garbage authoritarism painted as populism, is what you want for your country? Populism is treating (and making) people like ignorants, having workers easily manejable like animals. I see this in my own country, and I tell you, we still have freedom because we have FREEDOM of speech and FREEDOM of press.

They do not know what FREEDOM is. You know, the thing we always fought for, but I may ask the question, Do you hate freedom? Or do you hate those who doesnt hate freedom?

Kralizec forgot to write that Chavez Party has the right to select majors, Members of the "Honourable Council of Discussions", basically an institution to promove laws in every city (cant remember how do you say that in proper english). They can impugnate every votation that it is not right to Hugo, they can make up an investigation against a TV station owner, and find him guilty. They can revoke a permission to allow certain TV station broadcast, remember Radio Caracas TV.

You should be ashamed to applaud the Comrade Hugo attitude.

[rasoforos]

He will fail, and hopefully there will be the deschavization of the Country of Venezuela and death will make Venezuela free of the damn curse of SOCIALISM.

Oh come on now! You can find a million things to criticise chavez about but...

'damn curse of SOCIALISM' ?!!??

Good ole Joe McCarthy would be so proud of ya...(and at least he has an excuse because he was drunk)

[Beskar]

I mean, he nationalised the oil away from greedy foreigners and used the profits to finance free healthcare and other community support programmes.

What a , curse him and his evil socialism with it's free healthcare. May people die of diseases extinct in other countries and not have people in post-op care in a tent due to unable to afford our good ol' American system.

[Kralizec]

Lol?

As time elapses after people have criticized socialist governments, the chance of someone bringing up McCarthy approaches one.
-Godwins Kralizecs law

Anyone who supports a socialist dictatorship is out of his mind. The reason why McCarthy was such a was because he targeted people for being leftist in general (and not only communists/socialists) and abused his position to undermine political opponents.
Let's be clear here: I don't have anything against social-democrats or leftists in general. And many leftist parties only call themselves "socialist" for nostalgic reasons. But socialism in the true sense of the word and in the way Chavez intends it, is indeed a curse like Caius said.

Any person, or any party wich seeks absolute power and justifies this by saying they'll use it for the good of the people is a wolf in sheeps clothing. In the early 20th century you would only need to be naive to trust them, but after 100 years and dozens of murderous "people's republics" anyone who still falls for this crap is an idiot.

[Beskar]

Half the stuff about Chavez isn't always correct or heavily slighted against him in Western Media due to policies such as nationalisation of the oil with the intend of using it to provide universal free health care amongst other things. With countries willing to overthrow democratically elected leaders for oil, it is not a surprise they wouldn't like him. Then there are criticisms of some of the things Chavez has or wants which are even worse in the United Kingdom.

For example, it is funny seeing the BBC saying how evil it is, to have term limits removed, when in the United Kingdom, we have a hereditary and our Prime-minister wasn't even elected on a mandate which can re-apply for election as many times as he wants.

[rasoforos]

Lol?

As time elapses after people have criticized socialist governments, the chance of someone bringing up McCarthy approaches one.
-Godwins Kralizecs law

Anyone who supports a socialist dictatorship is out of his mind.

But socialism in the true sense of the word and in the way Chavez intends it, is indeed a curse like Caius said.

You equate Socialist Dicatorship with Socialism. That is as biased as saying that all capitalist countries are Orwellians authoritatian regimes just because you visited Singapore.

I am not sure who gave you such ideas but reading a good book about Socialism would help. Socialism, same as Capitalism can be used by dictators. There are as many capitalist oppressive regimes as there are socialist. There is not reason to reject an economic theory just because the wrong people used it.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Chavez nationalized the assets so the money went to the people, opposed to the pockets of rich people in other countries.

You are joking, right?