When is a fascist not a fascist?

[CountArach]

Less violent doesn't mean not violent. And let's not even start about mental terror, it must be quite harrowing to have pictures of your children mailed at you with a little note that they know which school they are going. Very harrowing if your car explodes, very harrowing if your house is set on fire in the middle of the night.

Yes, because I'm sure social conservatives have never blown things up.

[Fragony]

Yes, because I'm sure social conservatives have never blown things up.

Why do you find it so hard to come to terms with something such as leftist terrorism and ultra-violent leftist scum. It exists, I didn't invent it to annoy you. I would have picked the Oklahoma-bombing by the way.

[CountArach]

Why do you find it so hard to come to terms with something such as leftist terrorism and ultra-violent leftist scum. It exists, I didn't invent it to annoy you. I would have picked the Oklahoma-bombing by the way.

Where did I deny its existance? I never did that - I hate it because I believe it discredits the movement as a whole. All I am saying is it is not a phenomenon of the left - the right has plenty of extremists as well.

[Fragony]

All I am saying is it is not a phenomenon of the left - the right has plenty of extremists as well.

As we all know, I guess we are just more vocal in our disaproval.

edit: and somebody explain me luigi's joke.

[Husar]

edit: and somebody explain me luigi's joke.

"un œuf" sounds like "enough" with a little phantasy I think.

[CountArach]

As we all know, I guess we are just more vocal in our disaproval.

Yes, but largely because it is more wide-spread. The need is there to be more vocal about it.

Anyway I think we've just about exhausted that line of discussion.

[HoreTore]

Why do you find it so hard to come to terms with something such as leftist terrorism and ultra-violent leftist scum.

I have absolutely no trouble "coming to terms with" leftist terrorism. Of course it exists, you think that "armed revolution"-thing is just talk, or what?

What I find troubling, is your rabid overstatement of the threat it poses(today, the threat is almost zero, not like the seventies anymore). Griffin should have no trouble sleeping over this. Just like our socialist finance minister shouldn't have any trouble sleeping(she got a cake in her face while walking down the street a week after she started), even though both left wing and right wing extremists have killed people.

EDIT: And do I need to remind you what you've been saying in the threads where I've talked about neo-nazi's and the threat presented by them...?

[Fragony]

EDIT: And do I need to remind you what you've been saying in the threads where I've talked about neo-nazi's and the threat presented by them...?

sure why not.

[HoreTore]

sure why not.

Let me give you a hint; it's the exact opposite of what you've been saying in this thread

[Fragony]

Let me give you a hint; it's the exact opposite of what you've been saying in this thread

Let me give you an invitation, post it here

[Tribesman]

Hey, we do egg throwing at politicians here as well!

Egging politicians is quite common , though the hungarians recently put through a case that overturned previous rulings that throwing eggs was part of freedom of expression.
Surely it is traditional for britons to pelt food at peope who are rubbish, be they actors singers orators or politicians .
Since Griffin wants good old British values and customs then he must be in favour of throwing food at idiots .
Then again listening to him over the past few years its quite hard to be specific about what he sees as British, his latest attempts are hilarious . Apparently you can tell who is British just by looking at them , so if there is any doubt about who is a true brit all you have to do is look for a drunk sunburnt slob throwing his guts up in the canary islands who is wearing union jack shorts. Anyone not fitting that description will have to be banned from Britain or fenced inside the BNPs proposed segregation enclaves for non-real-british.

Every democratically elected minister, MP, or MEP deserves a certain amount of respect, no matter how distasteful I find their views.

Why?

[KarlXII]

Not surprised here. Though, reviewing Griffins states policies, I found something odd, that being the Gurkhas are allowed to live in Britain after serving the country for some odd years, a policy Griffin wishes to remove. I'm quite puzzled at why he wants this removed, surely, regardless if they are Ghurka or English, a soldier is allowed to live in the country they risked their lives to defend.

[Beskar]

He wants it removed because they are not white.

The reason is as fundamentality retarded as that. Racists don't use logic to justify their opinions, just the colour of your skin.

[Kralizec]

Let me play the devils advocate here:

The BNP candidates were elected in the Yorkshire and the Humber constituency and in the North West England constituency.
Since they don't actually represent anyone outside those constituencies, what reason could anyone not from there have to complain about them being elected?

[Furunculus]

they make the rest of the UK look bad, and put paid to the British conceit that unlike the continent Britain doesn't elect facists

[Kralizec]

Assuming that you don't live in either of these constituencies, let's put it this way: the locals elect their own representatives and it's none of your business, in the same way that it's not your business that the French elected Sarkozy for president.

yes/no?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Why?

Think about it. Take them down in debate (it seems easy enough with Griffin), don't egg them.

[Tribesman]

Think about it.

What has that got to do with the price of cheese?
The post you are responding to was a question about your statement regarding respect.
So Mars why do politicians deserve respect ?

Take them down in debate (it seems easy enough with Griffin), don't egg them.

Take them down in debate , then egg them .
Though in my experience over in Britain with these scum the practice is take them down in debate, wait for them to lose their heads and make the first move , then introduce their heads to the floor. Its easy as brainless muppets like these get frustrated very easily when trying to think and almost by default try and get violent. OK maybe its cruel to do such things to people so retarded....but its fun .

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

So Mars why do politicians deserve respect ?

Respect as being free from being egged or assaulted. We live in a democracy, and as long as it remains a proper democracy, we can express our opinions through debate, dialogue, and the ballot box. We cannot assault people.

[Tribesman]

Respect as being free from being egged or assaulted.

No , most politicians deserve a damn good kicking