white supremacist opens fire at US Holocaust Museum

**Ronin** · 06-10-2009, 22:17

Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars

Uh, nobody is egging on anti-black racism or white supremacy on Fox News.

but things like socialism, the government taking control of people's lives or 'they are gonna take your guns away' are... and these ideas aren´t water-tight and separate from each other..... many wackos believe all of them.

**Evil_Maniac From Mars** · 06-10-2009, 22:21

Originally Posted by Ronin

but things like socialism

Doesn't really relate.

the government taking control of people's lives

Libertarians are responsible for anti-Semitism? Who knew...

or 'they are gonna take your guns away'

So what, half of America is a white supremacist terrorist group? It isn't exactly as if Obama is Second Amendment friendly...

**Hosakawa Tito** · 06-10-2009, 22:40

Considering the number of people at the museum this tragedy could have been far worse. The security team did a fine job of containing this bastard. Condolences to Officer Johns's family & friends.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 06-10-2009, 22:47

Too bad the security guard died. RIP.

As for right wing - being a racist or nazi doesn't make you right wing. Perhaps one should look at which party controlled the south after reconstruction ended, and all the racist policies they had (hint - the Democratic party).

I've seen a report saying the nutter was a 9/11 "truther" - not a right wing position either.

CR

**tibilicus** · 06-10-2009, 22:48

I'm surprised this has made headline news tbh, I mean it's top of my BBC RRS feed.

I'm failing to see what all the fuss is about, seems like a bit of a storm in a teacup to me..

**Andres** · 06-10-2009, 22:55

Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

Too bad the security guard died. RIP.

As for right wing - being a racist or nazi doesn't make you right wing. Perhaps one should look at which party controlled the south after reconstruction ended, and all the racist policies they had (hint - the Democratic party).

I've seen a report saying the nutter was a 9/11 "truther" - not a right wing position either.

CR

Why is it so important if he was right wing, left wing or goldwing?

He's a nutter. Yesterday's nutter was a religious nutter, tomorrows nutter may be a communist nutter and next week's nutter could a be flying spaghetti monster nutter. But they're all nutters

Everybody leaving his house with a weapon after saying to himself "Ok. Well, I've read some books on [insert subject] and some websites on [insert subject] and now I'm going to kill some random people because I think they're evil" is a nutter.

**TB666** · 06-10-2009, 23:04

Originally Posted by Andres

Why is it so important if he was right wing, left wing or goldwing?

Well if he is a left wing then this story will appear on Fox News where they will claim that his socialist/communist ways no doubt caused this and this is somehow Obama's fault.
It will be a masterpiece of comedy no doubt.

If he is right wing then it will appear on MSNBC(?) and where this is somehow connected to Cheney or Rush Limbaugh.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 06-10-2009, 23:16

Originally Posted by Andres

Why is it so important if he was right wing, left wing or goldwing?

He's a nutter. Yesterday's nutter was a religious nutter, tomorrows nutter may be a communist nutter and next week's nutter could a be flying spaghetti monster nutter. But they're all nutters

Everybody leaving his house with a weapon after saying to himself "Ok. Well, I've read some books on [insert subject] and some websites on [insert subject] and now I'm going to kill some random people because I think they're evil" is a nutter.

Some people are saying he's right wing. I am simply arguing otherwise.

CR

**Evil_Maniac From Mars** · 06-10-2009, 23:22

Originally Posted by Andres

Why is it so important if he was right wing, left wing or goldwing?

It doesn't. We weren't the ones who leveled the initial accusation.

Originally Posted by TB666

If he is right wing then it will appear on MSNBC(?) and where this is somehow connected to Cheney or Rush Limbaugh.

It doesn't need to go on MSNBC, it has already happened in this thread. His exact political leanings (except for his white supremacy) seem to elude us at the moment.

**KarlXII** · 06-11-2009, 05:11

Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

Too bad the security guard died. RIP.

As for right wing - being a racist or nazi doesn't make you right wing. Perhaps one should look at which party controlled the south after reconstruction ended, and all the racist policies they had (hint - the Democratic party).

CR

The Democratic Party was the conservative party of that time. The Republicans were seen as progressive (go figure).

The Democratic Party probably became the progressive, leftist party it's known for today around the time of Kennedy. In the late 1800s, blacks voted for Republicans due to their progressive attitude. Now they vote for Democrats for the same thing.

**Fragony** · 06-11-2009, 07:30

Yep sounds like suicide by cop, shame it failed now you have to feed it.

**Kralizec** · 06-11-2009, 09:53

R.I.P.

**Vladimir** · 06-11-2009, 00:10

Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito

Considering the number of people at the museum this tragedy could have been far worse. The security team did a fine job of containing this bastard. Condolences to Officer Johns's family & friends.

To hell with the political BS in the thread, this is what it's all about. That guard did a damn fine job and I'm glad the nutter didn't die. He wanted to die, now he gets to suffer a little more for his actions.