Infraction, multi-culture

[Megas Methuselah]

Racism is a pain in the ass. This guy can keep on claiming how he's not racist, but he sounds exactly like the white Canadians who support international humanitarian aid, but scornfully look down on the poverty-stricken First Nations who had been living on this continent for millenia before those superior white settlers arrived here.

[CountArach]

Racism is a pain in the ass. This guy can keep on claiming how he's not racist, but he sounds exactly like the white Canadians who support international humanitarian aid, but scornfully look down on the poverty-stricken First Nations who had been living on this continent for millenia before those superior white settlers arrived here.

You might want to save that view for the Backroom mate

[Strike For The South]

Racism is a pain in the ass. This guy can keep on claiming how he's not racist, but he sounds exactly like the white Canadians who support international humanitarian aid, but scornfully look down on the poverty-stricken First Nations who had been living on this continent for millenia before those superior white settlers arrived here.

so was this post meant to be ironic?

[Furunculus]

I am just surprised you only received an infraction to be honest...

I personally find the use of colourful language a minor problem

However, the amount of racial slur and stereotyping you used was rather shocking (the fact that you do not seem to get what you did wrong is even more shocking though).

Also, quoting figures and statistics out of nowhere, and using them to support action against foreigners, is inciting hatred in my book.

i personally had no problem with the content of his post, it was a statement of fact that some non-western immigrants have no idea what a toilet for, and that local residents find the result of this ignorance very distressing. as long as it is clear that he is not referring to entire groups.

[rasoforos]

i personally had no problem with the content of his post, it was a statement of fact that some non-western immigrants have no idea what a toilet for, and that local residents find the result of this ignorance very distressing. as long as it is clear that he is not referring to entire groups.

No I was not talking about his description.

I was talking about supporting that a specific group is to blame for a crime rise, without actually providing any evidence that they are indeed the ones who should be blamed.

And while we all can (and will) support our opinions on limited or non-existent evidence, doing so to demonise immigrants of a certain religion is not something I would agree with.

[Kadagar_AV]

It's usually an idea to respond to the moderator in question too. I remember once getting in some confusion with Lemur and when he saw my reply, he just politely pointed me in the right direction. I am meaning to say this as a compliment to Lemur, as he nicely explained to me without any harshness or trouble. So even though I made a boo-boo, he acted professional at all times.

So I will stereotype in the sense that this is most likely the same for all the moderators and they I would say they would be respectful at all times if you nicely ask them what the trouble is, if you don't fully understand.

As for your post though, it is very stereotyping. I go to University with what you might call "students of other colours" and they are all civilised people. As for pooping in the bushes though, that is probably the Rugby team, nothing to do with skin colour. It is the fact you made out all "black" people drink from the toilet and use bushes and all it takes is to find one "black" person who doesn't do that to disprove your claim (should be quite easy).

I really get worried about the averages orgahs reading skill at this point.


Monk, that's funny, I havent yet recieved an answer from the times mods have Pmed me infractions, and I wrote back. Or there would have been no reason for this thread, as an example.

Rasoforos, are you STILL claiming their is no evidence in that thread?

Everything I've written is backed up by sources.

[Ser Clegane]

I havent yet recieved an answer from the times mods have Pmed me infractions, and I wrote back.

Sorry - I have to work for a living. Please excuse me for not immediately responding.

You have a PM.

[Kadagar_AV]

Sorry - I have to work for a living. Please excuse me for not immediately responding.

You have a PM.

I didn't mean you! I meant historicly, not today :)

I dont mind waiting 48h or so :)

[KarlXII]

No I was not talking about his description.

I was talking about supporting that a specific group is to blame for a crime rise, without actually providing any evidence that they are indeed the ones who should be blamed.

And while we all can (and will) support our opinions on limited or non-existent evidence, doing so to demonise immigrants of a certain religion is not something I would agree with.

Was that before or after he started inciting hatred against brown people?

[Beskar]

I really get worried about the averages orgahs reading skill at this point.

Not really, it is more your explanation -

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Where I live now there are no black people drinking from the toilet and "pooping" in the bushes

You implied that is what black people do. So it isn't my reading skill, it is your skill of explaining. Did you put any control or limits in your statement?

[Megas Methuselah]

EDIT: Nvm, I don't need another infraction.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Not really, it is more your explanation -

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Where I live now there are no black people drinking from the toilet and "pooping" in the bushes

You implied that is what black people do. So it isn't my reading skill, it is your skill of explaining. Did you put any control or limits in your statement?

Uh, no. He didn't say that there were no black people where he lived, he just said that they weren't doing [what he described]. It isn't racist simply because he isn't implying that the entire group of people does it. I do agree that his wording was certainly off and could use some fixing, or the post itself could have contained clarification.

[Megas Methuselah]

I do agree that his wording was certainly off and could use some fixing, or the post itself could have contained clarification.

Yeah, he sure had me fooled. Black people in Sweden come straight from "the djungle" and go around "pooping in the bushes."

[pevergreen]

I find that in general, black people from Europe are the shiz.

Example: The Stranger.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Yeah, he sure had me fooled. Black people in Sweden come straight from "the djungle" and go around "pooping in the bushes."

He didn't say all black people did so though. If a white person did the same thing, he would be within his grammatical rights to say that it was a white person.

[rasoforos]

Rasoforos, are you STILL claiming their is no evidence in that thread?

It took pages and pages of discussion to even get you people to look for any evidence...

...you were quoting link upon link of racist leaning bloggers and publications that were linking one another as 'evidence'...

...so I still stand by my opinion that the demonization of a group of people based on no evidence is incitement to hatred.

Whether the 'evidence' is valid or substantial we can talk about in the backroom. This is not the place my friends

[Fragony]

Whether the 'evidence' is valid or substantial we can talk about in the backroom. This is not the place my friends

So why don't you, it's all there to be teared apart. We delivered, you ignored.

[rasoforos]

So why don't you, it's all there to be teared apart. We delivered, you ignored.

Hey, this is unfair. I will comment in due time. As I said I keep an open mind. Glad that my humble opinion is so eagerly anticipated

I have no established opinion about the subject though (I mentioned that from the start).

P.S You could have PM'd that

[Fragony]

Of course I value your opinion, nothing is true unless a Greek has said it first.

[al Roumi]

oh man, the internet can be one scary place when people start talking about stuff that doesn't involve computer games!

[Hooahguy]

oh man, the internet can be one scary place when people start talking about stuff that doesn't involve computer games!

[Tribesman]

So why don't you, it's all there to be teared apart. We delivered, you ignored.

Hey Frag the "evidence" and the blogger were thoroughly torn apart, you just didn't notice.

[Fragony]

Hey Frag the "evidence" and the blogger were thoroughly torn apart, you just didn't notice.

No it wasn't, you can't just decide that something was torn apart, this isn't like laying out the party line like a coldwar apparatski, for something to be torn apart it has to be teared apart first.

[Papewaio]

So focus on the positive solutions.

All those who have survived living and working in jungles & modern cities raise your hands.

After walking a mile in another's shoes then make a pronouncement.