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    Σέλευκος Νικάτωρ Member Fluvius Camillus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontline1944 View Post


    You make me sick. Such vile rhetoric defaming the greatest of EB factions will not be tolerated.

    Point 1: You speak of the trait "Pavel-ter"? Uniting the Thracians isn't difficult at all. It's possible to completely avoid Makedonian territories if you move reasonably quickly, and unless some other faction has expanded west into Asia Mikra, taking Nikaia should be no problem. That being said, you can expect a considerable amount of conflict after you unite the Thracians, but by then, you should have access to all of your factional units (split into the northern Dacians and the southern Thracians, as I view it) and fighting to keep your empire alive should be a great deal more fun.

    Point 2: It is possible to change a faction's color. You'll have to do the forum search yourself, but I recall a thread or two, or at least a post, detailing the necessary steps. Personally, I am entirely satisfied with the Getai's dirt-brown color. The perfect shade for barbarians and it brings words like "ambush" to mind.

    Point 3: You dislike Drapanai with their armor-piercing, super-lethality falx and dirt-cheap cost? You don't like the Traikioi Rhomphaiaphoroi, the butchers of antiquity and the terror of all other factions? You aren't convinced by their Traikioi Prodromoi, arguably the most effective medium cavalry in EB? (Personally, though, I prefer the wizened looks of Tarabostes.) Not even their numerous elite units (Komatai Epilektoi, Ischyroi Orditon, Komatai Agrianai, the before-mentioned Rhomphaiaphoroi, and Ktistai)? They also have access to abundant types of horse archers, both factional and regional (Scythians, Sarmatians).

    Point 4: The Getai boast one of the best locations in EB. At the beginning, they aren't bordered by any other faction, and so can develop at their own pace. On the second turn, the Getai can capture Sarmiszegethusa, which has mines, a unique building (actually a holy mountain that offers experience boosts to troops), and can be developed into an excellent recruiting center. Although initially landlocked, they can quickly capture any of four settlements bordering the Black Sea (Kallatis, Byzantion, Tylis, and Olbia). To their immediate south lie the Thracians, with their array of excellent units. Go farther south, and you happen upon the rich Hellenes, easy pickings for the Getai. To the west is a large buffer of Eleutheroi settlements, one of which offer the Cordinau Orca, one of the best heavy infantry in EB. The Getai also have the option of expanding north or northeast, though I have not done that yet (the settlements there offer little in terms of real value).

    Point 5: Their victory conditions are reasonably easy to attain. The one potential difficulty you may encounter is in dealing with the Eleutheroi "super-stacks" to the north-west, but that gives you a good opportunity to field your best units and watch a slaughter [of the enemy] ensue. Otherwise, the victory conditions are straightforward and as one would expect them to be. In my second Getai campaign, I have completely side-stepped the northern "victory settlements"; why should I capture those if I plan to play beyond the point when "victory" is attained?


    Er, forgot to post my choice for most boring faction. That would be the Saka Rauka. They're positioned in the very corner of the map, an obscure location to say the least. If I wanted to play a nomad/steppe faction, I would opt for the Sauromatae.
    You are forcing me to start a Getai campaign when I read this....

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    I lived for three years not knowing what AAR is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus View Post
    You are forcing me to start a Getai campaign when I read this....

    ~Fluvius
    Me too...

    Back to topic: I haven't tried all factions so far, but I think I can say with great certanity that the Sauros are ment above all for Nomad fans, for the others it can get boring quite quick. I don't know about the others...

    By the way: @ Frontline 1944: I don't think the position of the Sakae is that bad - it has a great feel to conquer anything westwards without having to fear someone or something attack you in the rear. (pluss I love the nomadic cavalry and infantry potential the Saka have) And I gotta agrea - Traikioi Rhomphaiaphoroi are real butchers on the field of battle... I can wait to recruit them to my Saka hordes and use them to hack some Romani (insert evil)
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    I don't get it is there some inside joke going on around this forum about the Romani? Many posts all over the forum say how the author hates Romani and can't wait to destroy them or is disappointed because they do not get a chance to fight them in their current campaign.
    Am I missing something here? Am I the only one who doesn't start campaigns with animosity towards certain factions?
    Last edited by Fierro; 06-23-2009 at 20:26.

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    Default Re: Most boring faction to play as

    Quote Originally Posted by Fierro View Post
    I don't get it is there some inside joke going on around this forum about the Romani? Many posts all over the forum say how the author hates Romani and can't wait to destroy them or is disappointed because they do not get a chance to fight them in their current campaign.
    Am I missing something here? Am I the only one who doesn't start campaigns with animosity towards certain factions?
    Some people at this forum actually hate Romans, some do it as an inside joke. For some reason there is a lot of Romani bashing around here. When I was new to forums, it really annoyed me, but after some time I got used to it, also some of the "haters" actually were playing a Romani campaign in the meanwhile, as it was an inside joke between people, not actual hate.

    ~Fluvius

    Edit: I can predict some of the posts following will include some of these things:
    - Rome (or "Barbaropolis") must burn
    - All hail Makedonia
    - Some way to torture or kill romans
    - A creepy person telling how he burns Rome and then a bulge starts forming in his pants.
    - Something in the context above....
    Last edited by Fluvius Camillus; 06-23-2009 at 20:32.
    Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrius
    Oh my god, i think that is the first time in human history that someone cares to explain an acronym that people expect everybody to know in advance.
    I lived for three years not knowing what AAR is.

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    5x2x<-- From Aemilius Paulus for winning a contest!
    1x From Mulceber!

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    Default Re: Most boring faction to play as

    Quote Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus View Post
    - Rome (or "Barbaropolis") must burn
    Historically it did - quite often... Atleast you always build it to look better...
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus View Post
    - All hail Makedonia
    Well almost all hellenes say that...
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus View Post
    - Some way to torture or kill romans
    Don't we all say that about a factions soldiers earlier or later?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus View Post
    - A creepy person telling how he burns Rome and then a bulge starts forming in his pants.
    Strange, I never read one like that before or am I missing something?

    It is all rather a kind of "all forum joke" by most.

    Backt to topic: does anyone find the lusotanni boring? I mean even if you manage to unite all of Iberia you can hardly go outside of it succesfully...
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    Default Re: Most boring faction to play as

    It was a joke (yes kinda lame, I know), why so serious?
    Last edited by Fluvius Camillus; 06-23-2009 at 21:05.
    Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrius
    Oh my god, i think that is the first time in human history that someone cares to explain an acronym that people expect everybody to know in advance.
    I lived for three years not knowing what AAR is.

    Completed Campaigns: Epeiros (EB1.0), Romani (EB1.1), Baktria (1.2) and Arche Seleukeia
    1x From Olaf the Great for my quote!
    3x1x<-- From Maion Maroneios for succesful campaigns!
    5x2x<-- From Aemilius Paulus for winning a contest!
    1x From Mulceber!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus View Post
    It was a joke (yes kinda lame, I know), why so serious?
    Who's serious here? When it gets to romans I'm almost never serious
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    Default Re: Most boring faction to play as

    Quote Originally Posted by HunGeneral View Post

    By the way: @ Frontline 1944: I don't think the position of the Sakae is that bad - it has a great feel to conquer anything westwards without having to fear someone or something attack you in the rear.
    That is precisely why I don't like the Sakae. Being able to expand in just one general direction is bad enough, but to be placed in the most obscure corner of the map, where the land is either steppe or mountains, is something that doesn't attract me.


    By the way, Fluvius Camillus, if you can replicate your feat of conquering the world by 195/190 BC with the Getai, I will shower you with balloons.
    Last edited by DaciaJC; 06-23-2009 at 23:36.
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