Europe

[Tribesman]

is there any point to this pointless nitpicking?

Yeah , you ain't very good with numbers and keep throwing them out even when they don't mean what you want them to mean.
So high 60s means low 60s and low 30s means low 40s

[Furunculus]

I used very apt examples. Luthor had the backing of his local elite, as did Huss before he was betrayed, condemned and burned. Wilberforce was an MP, it took him decades to make his case, but he did. Conviction is no bad thing, trying to ram-rod others into your way of thinking by force is a very bad thing.

That is what the Roman Catholic Church tried to do, that is was the Oligarchs of the EU are trying to do. Interestingly, both were grand plans to unify Europe and both were vehemently resisted at the grass-roots level.

that would certainly seem to be the case.

20+ years ago participation in euro elections and enthusiasm for the EU started in the high sixities percentage wise.

after 20+ years of creeping federalism, participation in euro elections and enthusiasm for the EU sits in the low thirties.

correlation much?

Thats wierd , in your country voter turnout has remained around the same the euro elections and declined in the national elections.
Though 10 years ago Britain did get a one off big drop in turnout that would put them on the same level as the new eastern european countries this time round

i didn't state that it was, but maybe that reflects a perception among voters of the growing irrelevance of parliament in the face of ever greater divestitures of power to brussels?

that EU wide the proportion and enthusiasm of eu voters has declined by >>>nearly a third<<< is a sobering fact, the fact that within the UK it has never got much above one third is derisory.

You ain't very good with numbers are you

i corrected that mistake three minutes before your post was made. is there any point to this pointless nitpicking?

Yeah , you ain't very good with numbers and keep throwing them out even when they don't mean what you want them to mean.
So high 60s means low 60s and low 30s means low 40s

keep nitpicking, you're making a great contribution to this discussion.