Europe

[Beskar]

the answer is that a non-federated britain is gradually making itself less free, minute by minute.
all the above are correct and reprehensible, though many are symptoms of a centralising government that cares more for collective welfare rather than individual liberty. most importantly, they are mistakes made within my family that i feel i can make a difference against.

yes. in my opinion this is an inevitable result of moving the cratos further away from the demos, and severing the link that allows both groups the trust the other.
an electorate that watches its masters enact policy that is inimical to the will of the people will grow resentful and contemptuous, especially when they are so far removed from the centre of power, and such a small function of that power, that they see themselves powerless to change things via the democratic process.
a ruling class that enacts policy over a multitude of differnt social and cultural electorate groups must know that it cannot please everyone, (and will in fact please no-one in its compromises) will learn to harden themselves against voter opinion, especially when there is no local link that allows them to empathise with 'their' electorate, and the electorate is so massive and fractured that their can never be effective opposition to individual acts.
it is not that these problems do not occur in national government, merely that they will be greatly magnified on a federal level if we take as disparate a group as the electorates of the 27 eu nations.

The whole idea of a federal system is that there are power on different levels and that power isn't centralised. You touch on other issues which is basically the failure of the representative democracy system hence, the best way forward is to continue to evolve opposed to just "sitting still" as voter apathy and disillusionment grows as the people don't have the power to make the changes that need to be done, especially with those "representing us" are merely representing just themselves. This would only increase if the same flaws are taken to a greater level, in a sense, in would just turn into the US system with countries (Britain, French, Germany) having state rights (California, Texas, Florida) with a powerful centralised federal body.

However, the drawbacks and failures of a representitive system are completely separate from the drawbacks or idea of a Europe unity. The problem is only there or possibly remain there if things that are the issue don't change.

The curse of a Constitutional Monarchy like there is in Britain, is that we are supporting a bunch of people on a completely different class who are just born into power, regardless of who they are. This is against the ethos and spirit of equality which is the advancement of the political power. The problem is with this hybrid system, is that it really proposes doing what needs to be done because people hate change, especially the older generation. You heard examples of people who comment "In my youth, I was radical, now I simply don't care" the thing is, this is made to sound like change and wanting change is a bad aspect, in fact, wanting change is the best aspect, the willingness to constantly change, improve, get better, it is the underlying principle in science and technological advancement. You have the older generation still wondering "What is with these damn computers?" while now they are absolutely everywhere.


Just on another note, comparing community like a family in a way, is a very bad idea, mainly because of family roles such as mother and father, really complicate matters opposed to a bunch of equally entitled and individual members working together.

[Furunculus]

1. the best way forward is to continue to evolve opposed to just "sitting still" as voter apathy and disillusionment grows as the people don't have the power to make the changes that need to be done, especially with those "representing us" are merely representing just themselves.

2. The curse of a Constitutional Monarchy like there is in Britain, is that we are supporting a bunch of people on a completely different class who are just born into power, regardless of who they are. This is against the ethos and spirit of equality which is the advancement of the political power. The problem is with this hybrid system, is that it really proposes doing what needs to be done because people hate change, especially the older generation. You heard examples of people who comment "In my youth, I was radical, now I simply don't care" the thing is, this is made to sound like change and wanting change is a bad aspect, in fact, wanting change is the best aspect, the willingness to constantly change, improve, get better, it is the underlying principle in science and technological advancement. You have the older generation still wondering "What is with these damn computers?" while now they are absolutely everywhere.

3. Just on another note, comparing community like a family in a way, is a very bad idea, mainly because of family roles such as mother and father, really complicate matters opposed to a bunch of equally entitled and individual members working together.

1. agreed, one of the joys of an umwritten constitution is that the UK is able to adapt very quickly, however I believe that evolving in the direction of a federal europe would be a retrograde step.

2. i don't agree, it may seem daft to you but i recognise that it works and works as well or better than any other system, most importantly it is perceived to work by the majority in this country, even if that majority does include conservative old people. this country is their too, indeed more theirs than ours.

3. yes its a flawed analogy, but it works for me in the sense that i am trying to convey the concept of trust being given to those who you know, and know to hold views that you believe will lead to acceptable decisions which may later impact on yourself, and that you know this because of a shared history.