What animals are ours to kill, and eat, and skin... etc

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Torturing for meat? Try to watch videos about feline slaughter... (search for yourself) and u will know why torture for meat is sometimes unavoidable...

So don't eat cats if you can't kill them properly.

[Ser Clegane]

So don't eat cats if you can't kill them properly.

And there you hit exactly the nail that I was aiming for.
If someone insists on eating an animal that needs to be tortured to deliver the optimum in terms of taste, then this is absolulety the same as torturing "just for fun" (in this case the fun of a special dish) - hence my question in one of the previous posts.

[Cute Wolf]

And there you hit exactly the nail that I was aiming for.
If someone insists on eating an animal that needs to be tortured to deliver the optimum in terms of taste, then this is absolulety the same as torturing "just for fun" (in this case the fun of a special dish) - hence my question in one of the previous posts.

Very different than 19 y old charged w feline murder story... he doesn't ate that cat...
Phew... to made all the opinion, I'll think I'll buy a cat meat / dog meat, steak it, and bet most of the orgah here can't tell the difference w bacon... can I post the pic? not disturbing pics of course, just "before" (the life cat / dog) and "after" (ready for dinner)

[Ser Clegane]

Just to clarify - and that perhaps also fits with your other thread - generally I have no problem at all with people eating dogs or cats.
I eat pork. A pig is a very intelligent animal and certainly also can make a good pet if you would like to have one - I still prefer to have the dog as a pet and eat the pig.
I will not go around and condemn people for eating dogs and cats while at the same time I am enjoying beef and ignoring the feelings that Indians have for cows.

However, I prefer to have the animals that I eat killed swiftly and ideally without pain. If you tell me that my pork might taste better if it is tortured to death or if you tell me that a cat can only be properly slaughtered by torturing it, then I would opt out and settle for second best.
If you are torturing an animal to make it taste better, you are effectively torturing it for pleasure, i.e. for "fun" and the difference between this and a woman who stomps a cat to death because she enjoys the power-trip is somewhat marginal.

[Cute Wolf]

Just to clarify - and that perhaps also fits with your other thread - generally I have no problem at all with people eating dogs or cats.
I eat pork. A pig is a very intelligent animal and certainly also can make a good pet if you would like to have one - I still prefer to have the dog as a pet and eat the pig.
I will not go around and condemn people for eating dogs and cats while at the same time I am enjoying beef and ignoring the feelings that Indians have for cows.

However, I prefer to have the animals that I eat killed swiftly and ideally without pain. If you tell me that my pork might taste better if it is tortured to death or if you tell me that a cat can only be properly slaughtered by torturing it, then I would opt out and settle for second best.
If you are torturing an animal to make it taste better, you are effectively torturing it for pleasure, i.e. for "fun" and the difference between this and a woman who stomps a cat to death because she enjoys the power-trip is somewhat marginal.

Oh... at least now I understand your psition... many thanks... Herbivores doesn't have any "fight-back" sense, and so can quickly dispatched, but carnivores... the "fight-back" is their instinct... no wonder, their slaughter is more difficult......

Well, rating delicacies is not for mere fun.. it was diffrent level... of statisfication...
Did any sane humans enjoy decapitating chickens? I guess not... but it was required to made a good KFC!

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Oh... at least now I understand your psition... many thanks... Herbivores doesn't have any "fight-back" sense, and so can quickly dispatched, but carnivores... the "fight-back" is their instinct... no wonder, their slaughter is more difficult......

Well, rating delicacies is not for mere fun.. it was diffrent level... of statisfication...
Did any sane humans enjoy decapitating chickens? I guess not... but it was required to made a good KFC!

Any animal can be quickly dispatched if killed gently and with consideration. Sheep, pigs and cows most certainly do have a "fight-back" instinct, as I can tell you from marking and sheering them.

A delicacy is nothing more than an expression of human vanity. You do require cat or dog meat to live, and given that you'll bash their head in with a rock after tying them up you're clearly not bothered about the suffering.

So far your arguement is still just, "because I want to", which is Ser's point.

[Jolt]

Man. It's absolutely disgusting to see how many people defend that animals suffer as much as they do because it makes other people happy. How would I enjoy to see them temporarily go through the same agony as the animals that are killed that way to see if they would still have the same opinion.