Helping your colonial protectorate, and yourself

**AussieGiant** · 06-30-2009, 12:01

Originally Posted by alh_p

Have you avoided having them declare war on you? That's what usually happens to me with New Spain...

That's sort of what happened to me. As GB, the 13 Colonies and UP had a dust up. I clicked the wrong side, i.e. UP and now I don't have the 13 Colonies as a Protectorate.

The issue I have is that I'm playing a Prestige Campaign and I have not completed the mission. So now I'm not sure if I need to get the 13 Colonies back as a protectorate in order to complete the mission and get lots of Prestige.

Can any one help?

**Monsieur Alphonse** · 06-30-2009, 12:49

Originally Posted by AussieGiant

That's sort of what happened to me. As GB, the 13 Colonies and UP had a dust up. I clicked the wrong side, i.e. UP and now I don't have the 13 Colonies as a Protectorate.

The issue I have is that I'm playing a Prestige Campaign and I have not completed the mission. So now I'm not sure if I need to get the 13 Colonies back as a protectorate in order to complete the mission and get lots of Prestige.

Can any one help?

I was at war with the 13 colonies when I fulfilled the mission. And they were suddenly mine. So you don't need them back as protectorate but simply to capture the required regions.

**al Roumi** · 06-30-2009, 12:55

Originally Posted by Monsieur Alphonse

I was at war with the 13 colonies when I fulfilled the mission. And they were suddenly mine. So you don't need them back as protectorate but simply to capture the required regions.

Absolutely. I almost wonder (but doubt) if the DoW i usually get from the starting Protectorates by around 1710-1715 is because i'm coming close to completing the mission and they are making a last ditch attempt to remain independant or what.

In any case, as Mr Alphonse says, as long as you hold the territories required to complete the mission, you will absord the protectorate.

One thing I've noticed is that you gain what territories the protectorate has at the time, not it's starting possessions -i.e. if it loses any regions (as the 13 cols are want to do), you don't get them. What i haven't tested is whether you get any of the extra regions your protectorate might have captured... But then, i've seen lousiana, 13 cols or New Spain ever expand their territory.

**anweRU** · 06-30-2009, 13:23

You will get the extra regions. In one of my earlier games (back in 1.1 IIRC), France and GB (myself) were at war. Just before I finished the mission, the 13 colonies took the undefended Acadia, which joined me with the rest a couple turns later.

Also, in my first 1.2 campaign (as GB again), I handed captured territories such as the Iriquois ones, to the 13C (to reduce my admin penalty), and they also joined me again once the mission was complete. A couple were even converted to 100% protestantism...

**AussieGiant** · 06-30-2009, 13:56

Thanks fo the help and advise guy's.

In my campaign the 13 Colonies are being driven back by the Cherokee and the US which appeared after they lost a province to the Cherokee.

They have been reduced to 2 or 3 provinces at the moment. I certainly am not expecting anything more than their remaining provinces when I take the territories required.

If I get more I'd be really surprised.

**oz_wwjd** · 06-30-2009, 14:39

protectorate colonies seem to stink at defending themselves though,it seems as GB I always end up having to re-take at least 4 provinces from the rampaging Cherokee.

**Zarky** · 06-30-2009, 19:10

I haven't had problems with 13 Colonies or New Spain, but for me it seems to be impossible to defend Louisiana as France, they get steamrolled by Iroquois, Cherokee and Pueblos before I can complete the mission.