I doubt you would have anyway, as you lose this round because Mafia need to survive to win.
Last edited by Beskar; 06-30-2009 at 11:54.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Honestly Beskar? Stuff it - I don't care where, but stuff it. It's pointless to reason with you, and everyone else will follow along because you can rant and rave just like some psychotic hellfire&brimstone preacher and in general be obnoxious. I've stated my case, if this game stands for anything, then maybe they will make a decision for themselves instead of you forcing it upon them.
Sorry that you are taking it personally, YLC, but you are the Mafia.
I would hate for us to have personal problems again, those were just silly and annoying, however, I want to win this game and as a townie, I have to lynch the mafia.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Unvote: ???????
Vote: YLC
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@YLC,Beskar
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You cannot add days to life but you can add life to days.
Blame Tratorix for writing in the role-pm that I successfully prevented you from doing a kill attempt.
If it makes you feel better, I didn't target you out due to any personal reason, I thought your actions with Splitpersonality in the previous round made you seem suspicious with a couple other instances, I decided to role-block you to see the effect and that is what I got. A private message stating that I successfully prevented you from doing a kill attempt.
What do you want me to say?
"I got a guilty result on YLC, but I will just not bring it up or vote for him, because he might take it the wrong way"
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Yet your whole of an argument is FLAWED as to why, and it makes no SENSE. Have you even paid attention to your argument as to why I was guilty? You even brought up that the role PM said I was guilty, which is essentially an investigation, and you've wishy washy on how your own ability works, AFTER THE FACT - it wasn't until you absolutely needed it to be so that you said it said so! Seriously, thats like halfway through, after lynching a mafioso, the detective finally admits he was guilty when the whole thing was up in the air being discussed - a waste of fricken time and energy, and makes no sense.
I don't believe you, but that doesn't matter what I, or you believe - it's what the town thinks. You've claimed super investigator/roleblocker, I call bullshit - you may have roleblocked me, that I accept, and that alone proves my innocence. But to then start losing an argument and then say "well, it said he was guilty, so ha, all your logic is invalid" is a load of complete and utter rubbish and is essentially the refuge of someone who can get his point across.
You've proved nothing, and guess what! I have a guilty result on you! I received it last night after you roleblocked me.
Wow, YLC, I know being mafia and getting exposed is intense, but chill on the emotional outbursts of desperation.
As for matter-of-fact, I haven't changed my story since my first claim. To quote "I successfully prevented him from using his kill ability" to which I clarified as being a role-blocker which you then state was correct as you was being role-blocked.
My story adds up, my ability/action adds up. No one counter-claimed anything and I am happy to be lynched if I do turn out as guilty, however, knowing that you are a Mafia and I am not, I am steadfast in the belief that I won't be found guilty thus won't be killed.
You can post random ambiguous write-ups as your logic, or try to paint a picture where you are innocent and roses smell like daisies, however, those roses don't smell like daisies and this guilty result on you isn't a figment or a strange conjure, it is sitting right here as a matter-of-fact going that I successfully prevented you from using your kill attempt by role-blocking you.
Last edited by Beskar; 06-30-2009 at 12:21.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Doesn't change the fact your guilty Beskar - I am tired of trying to reason with you. Your ability does not add up, but whatever - I ask the day end early, since there is no further need for debate, not that there would have been anyway. I made the deal with ATPG, and now I pay for it.
Last edited by ULC; 06-30-2009 at 12:24.
Kay its not as much fun when it gets like this.
Can you both take a break from this thread for a while? You've said your piece to one another. Town will vote and decide, game will go on... life goes on. No biggie.
#Winstontoostrong
#Montytoostronger
YLC, you are obviously just making that up, wouldn't you have said it in the beginning, rather than say it now, opposed to actually claiming that I did indeed role-block you.
How does "I role-block you and the reply from host said that I successfully prevented you from making a kill attempt" not 'add-up'. As for debate, nothing you can say can convince me that the host deliberately lied in saying that I prevented you from doing a kill attempt. A guilty result is a guilty result and being told explicitly that I prevented you from making a kill is rather obvious.
Edit: I am not sure where Death Is Yonder got the "I made the deal with ATPG" from, but him being dead would mean he couldn't have done the deal with you.
Also this raises more points:
What was your original ability?
Why did you say you got a 'guilty result' on me?
If you made a deal to kill some one, how did you get the above?
It makes no sense and it is obvious that you are trying to worm yourself out of this situation, you got caught YLC, face the consequences.
Last edited by Beskar; 06-30-2009 at 12:37.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Being able to kill does not make one guilty -logical fallacy within the context of this game.
Wouldn't you have said it in the beginning if you actually witnessed me killing someone in which you proclaim your ability does not prevent a kill? Does the PM explicitly state I was mafia? No, it just says you prevented a kill, at best.
You can say what you want about the host "deliberately" lying to you - as far as the rest of us know, he said nothing of the sort and your just making that part up. Your not arguing with facts, as I have done, your not debating the argument even, as I have done. You've only attacked me, and slandered me. Good job doing the game justice.
Facts > "Mafia Logic"
The facts from the pm I got from the host, the facts from Pizza guy (through deal PM) and your claim to be using his ability all served to defeat you and your snakey ways.
Last edited by Beskar; 06-30-2009 at 12:43.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Unvote, Vote:YLC
You have to keep your lies consistent, as Death is Yonder posted from the deal PM with pizza guy, it says "This Evening" it pretty much out rules your theory from you using that deal.
However, why unvote and vote for yourself? Reminds me of TheFlax's mini-game when I called you out on being a Serial Killer then you just posted your role pm saying so, saying you quit then TheFlax WOG'd you.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
It's called being sarcastic and caustic - I did exactly what you did to me, and began pulling excuses for failing logic out of my. Each one was a lie, obviously, but it doesn't matter - at that point I had given up and was symbolically mocking you for your "brilliance", by imitating you.
Same principal, same theory. I'l live and die by my own hand, not some fool who thinks with his...nevermind.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
No, actually look back at what was debated, and you'll see that once I started to prove my point, you just started to whip out whatever you needed - you played magician instead of mathematician.
You never once thought with more brain power then required - if you had, you wouldn't have looked like a fool for 50+ posts, and instead presented your case logically and irrefutably. You failed, and yet won because I just gave up in face of it because the town would follow your little magic tricks more then any amount of reason.
Hence, why I am leaving the gameroom for an indefinite amount of time.
Last edited by ULC; 06-30-2009 at 13:02.
You cannot add days to life but you can add life to days.
This is not about Beskar, who is simply a catalyst, not the reason. I hate it when people are so narrow minded they can only see what is in front of them, and never extrapolate, assuming that the person can only possible be reacting to the current situation as it stands, as if each event is isolated from others.
OOC:
Peoples playstyles shouldn't be your concern. If you don't like how a certain person plays, then you are free to ignore them.
I for one used to ignore 4-5 active players (and a few inactive) because all of there posts (like mine) were filled with nothing. I thought myself better than them (but this has changed..in most cases) and so on and so forth.
Don't have it go to far. Take your leave of this thread if you must, put beskar on your ignore list for a while if you want.
Take it from me, I've had three hiatus's from the Gameroom, one was a general org absence, one was an imposed (so I got banned for a while...) and the third was because I was generally sick of it, like you are now. The shortest break I've had was my ban.
I've got no idea where I'm going with this...I'm going to bed.
Vote:Death is yonder He is probably that Robot who makes signs endlessly.....but we well see...*goes back to animal-like innocence*
Pevergreen got an innocent on Death is Yonder earlier in the thread I believe.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
pevergreen also pegged me as guilty, which you must actually deny if you're going to lynch YLC. I thinking him as a psycho cop.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
- Proud Horseman of the Presence
Well, he is investigating me tonight, so I will know the situation is as you describe then as if I am guilty, it might support your psycho cop theory, thus, anyone marked as innocent could infact be guilty. After-all, my role-result pm was right in saying YLC was guilty (as YLC admitted it after the whole hassle) which supports my theory.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
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