U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

**Xiahou** · 07-01-2009, 02:02

Originally Posted by Lemur

The Rumble in Minnesota is over. No, really, it's over. I can't decide if I'll miss the abusrdity, or if I'm glad that a no-longer-funny joke is at its end.

Some might say it's just starting.

I look forward to seeing how the Democrats solve all the country's problems with their filibuster proof majority.

**Alexander the Pretty Good** · 07-01-2009, 02:43

I still had my hopes up for the Lizard People and their reform-minded platform.

**Lemur** · 07-01-2009, 04:58

I know, ATPG, I was rooting for the lizard people too. At least we still have Sleestax ...

Originally Posted by Xiahou

I look forward to seeing how the Democrats solve all the country's problems with their filibuster proof majority.

If they can involve us in two wars and pass something as ineffective and expensive as Medicare D, I will be duly impressed.

**Xiahou** · 07-01-2009, 05:36

Originally Posted by Lemur

If they can involve us in two wars and pass something as ineffective and expensive as Medicare D, I will be duly impressed.

Well, just a few months in and we've got a $787bn+ stimulus (part D is estimated to cost less than than thru 2015) that was promised to keep unemployment under 8%, the house passed a cap and trade travesty that's reviled on both the left and right and we're looking at a healthcare reform package that's likely to call for huge new taxes in the midst of a recession. Not bad for just over 5 months- you've gotta give em time though. Franken isn't even sworn in yet.

**CountArach** · 07-01-2009, 05:37

Originally Posted by Xiahou

Well, just a few months in and we've got a $700bn+ stimulus that was promised to keep unemployment under 8%

Keeping in mind that most of it hasn't even hit the economy yet - I don't think you can blame rising unemployment on the stimulus package.

**Xiahou** · 07-01-2009, 05:41

Originally Posted by CountArach

Keeping in mind that most of it hasn't even hit the economy yet - I don't think you can blame rising unemployment on the stimulus package.

So what are you arguing? That Obama didn't claim it would keep unemployment under 8%? You just seem to be confirming what the critics have said- that the spending is too slow to make a difference.

**CountArach** · 07-01-2009, 05:45

Originally Posted by Xiahou

So what are you arguing? That Obama didn't claim it would keep unemployment under 8%? You just seem to be confirming what the critics have said- that the spending is too slow to make a difference.

I think that Obama's promise was irresponsible and he shouldn't have made it. But to then draw that out into an attack on the Stimulus package as a whole is wrong. I think that it will bring unemployment back into check far faster than doing nothing or tax cuts and that is all I was saying.

**KukriKhan** · 07-01-2009, 14:09

Originally Posted by Lemur

The Rumble in Minnesota is over. No, really, it's over. I can't decide if I'll miss the abusrdity, or if I'm glad that a no-longer-funny joke is at its end.

Whew. The people of Minnesota finally have the same level of representation as the rest of the States. I'd be plenty mad if I were them, being taxed without representation and all.

Meanwhile, they still haven't fixed the disparate way their precincts count votes, which led to this debacle in the first place. If they don't get to work on that soon, and there's another close election, they'll face the same problem again, and again.