Amusing ourselves to death

[Andres]

If you consider that having a full fridge is the final aim to be reached by mankind, then that's kind of disappointing.

Exactly.

The age we live in now, is one where nearly limitless achievments could be accomplished if even a small majority of the population gave enough of a damn.

The world would be such a wonderful place if a) everybody would have a full fridge; b) everybody would be happy with just that.

Limitless achievements? If everybody or even just a significant minority always wants more and more and more... then we will never have a peaceful world where everybody is happy. Never. Jamais. Nooit.

Why can't you be happy with a full fridge? Why do you always want more? For what purpose?

Why not enjoying the simple things, like e.g. being at home while it's raining outside, but you're sitting dry, warm and can have a nice dinner with a good beer/wine, because your fridge is filled and you have some bottles in your cellar. Add to that a book to read or a movie to watch after dinner.

Perfect.

Learn to be satisfied and there's no need for "more" or "limitless achievements".

I'd rather have a population of Andress (plural of Andres) than a population of people who are never complacent and would do anything to further their own goals, whatever it may cost.

Or you could just go out and have some fun

Well I can't speak for Andres, but as far as I'm concerned: yes, a full fridge and a beer and wine cellar is the pinnacle of human achievement.

You people worry, me and Andres fill our tummies and exchange some red Bordeaux' for an assortment of Leffe's.

They perfectly understand what I'm saying If only the rest of humanity would follow.

[Ariovistus Maximus]

The world would be such a wonderful place if a) everybody would have a full fridge; b) everybody would be happy with just that.

Limitless achievements? If everybody or even just a large minority always wants more and more and more... then we will never have a peaceful world where everybody is happy. Never. Jamais. Nooit.

Why can't you be happy with a full fridge? Why do you always want more? For what purpose?

Why not enjoying the simple things, like e.g. being at home while it's raining outside, but you're sitting dry, warm and can have a nice dinner with a good beer/wine, because your fridge is filled and you have some bottles in your cellar. Add to that a book to read or a movie to watch after dinner.

Perfect.

Learn to be satisfied and there's no need for "more" or "limitless achievements".








They perfectly understand what I'm saying If only the rest of humanity would follow.

I could live with that except...

well, I need a house to put around my fridge. And then of course I have to have electricity to run the fridge, and I need a car to run to the store to FILL UP my fridge, and then I want some friends over to enjoy my fridge with me...

And all that takes $$$, which I have to WORK for...

And besides all that, I like to do stuff besides eat and I hafta pay for THAT...

So Andres, I wouldn't disagree with you! Full fridge is nice. But I hafta pay for that stuff, and there are a few movements out there that display tendencies to impair my ability to do so.

[Andres]

I could live with that except...

well, I need a house to put around my fridge. And then of course I have to have electricity to run the fridge, and I need a car to run to the store to FILL UP my fridge, and then I want some friends over to enjoy my fridge with me...

And all that takes $$$, which I have to WORK for...

And besides all that, I like to do stuff besides eat and I hafta pay for THAT...

So Andres, I wouldn't disagree with you! Full fridge is nice. But I hafta pay for that stuff, and there are a few movements out there that display tendencies to impair my ability to do so.

That's because there are still way too many people out there who want more than just a dry, warm place and a filled fridge.

It's not those that are happy with what they have that need to be conversed here at the rich West; it's those who always want more and are never satisfied.

People who are never satisfied and always want more, bigger, larger,... are the curse of humanity and they will always ruin it for the rest of us, who are just happy with nothing more but a filled fridge and a roof above our heads.

[LittleGrizzly]

Caius maybes it different in South America (Argentina specifically right ?)

I kind of assume as we got wealthier and enjoyed continued periods of stability in the west we have become apathetic to politics... whereas South Americans haven't enjoyed the same wealth and stability so politics is more important to every day people...

Iran riots for example, loads of young people in those riots, in the UK if an election was rigged and i was telling my friends to riot half of them would be wondering why it makes a difference...

"they are all the same anyway"

The motto of the unintrested... the motto of a lot of the west i think...

I'd be happy with a house, my computer, some weed, then whatever food and water i needed to keep me going... I always figured if i can work part time i would do so in no hesitation... material possessions mean little to me... or outside one or two things they mean little to me...