That Cold Winter [Concluded]

[seireikhaan]

I agree with my dead comrade. Lynch White Eyes.

[Beskar]

Vote:White_Eyes:D

You both sound convinced.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

but why are you both convinced, could you please explain why it is white eyes?

[White_eyes:D]

Oh man... Thanks for the welcome back Mafia. You will lose!

edit: Thinking about it, based on the kill choices I think White eyes is a Mafia. Please vote for him.

I can't disagree.....if I were you would have been the first to die(I was planing to welcome you back with a lynch:wink)..... but anyway....Vote:Yaropolk He won the cavemen Mafia by scapegoating everyone....DON'T let it happen again....

[atheotes]

but why are you both convinced, could you please explain why it is white eyes?

looks like we are the only ones not in the know

@Yaropolk - i dont see the similarity in the writing style. the kill write up is not broken into short sentences like the one quoted and the flow also seems different.

@Andres - who did the write up? you or mafia?

[Csargo]

It's so cold.

Vote: Yaro

[Diana Abnoba]

Vote: White_eyes:D

Even he can't deny that he would pick Reenk and Khaan.

[White_eyes:D]

Vote: White_eyes:D

Even he can't deny that he would pick Reenk and Khaan.

Ok....but why vote for me? I would not have killed Khaan in the first round.... (He is very good lynch-bait)

[Beskar]

(He is very good lynch-bait)

No, that's me.

Sorry to say this, but two dead players are convinced it is you and the case against Yaropolk is pretty bad. I think the best decision for the town is to follow this strong suspicion of two members who ahd their lives taken.

[Tratorix]

No, that's me.

Sorry to say this, but two dead players are convinced it is you and the case against Yaropolk is pretty bad. I think the best decision for the town is to follow this strong suspicion of two members who ahd their lives taken.

Why? Its not particularly down to WE and Yaropolk. There's no reason to jump on the first bandwagon that forms, that's how the town lost W&F's game.

Vote: Diana Abnoba I personally don't see why White eyes would attack Reenk and Khaan if half the people here know he would do that.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I did not know he would do that.......

[Diana Abnoba]

@ Beskar, Reenk and Khaan;

I agree, that is what I'm going with, that same logic.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

could someone give me a crash course on why Whiteyes would kill Reenk?

[White_eyes:D]

No, that's me.

Sorry to say this, but two dead players are convinced it is you and the case against Yaropolk is pretty bad. I think the best decision for the town is to follow this strong suspicion of two members who ahd their lives taken.

Yaropolk won the last TWO large games by lurking in the shadows and winning... Ichigo knows it must be him....both he and I were lynched....while he was laughing in the background...You were even against it....

Also, the ghosts of people wanting a revenge make it easy for two Mafia to bandwagon that person and the others will just follow.

SEE

[Beskar]

The first bandwagon would be against Yarapolk and as you already see, he has the most votes. I doubt it is Yarapolk and just because he is the Mafia in another game, it could now mean he could even be a detective or the doctor and him getting lynched just because he was the Mafia in the other game would be a stupid mistake.

However, both Khaan and Reenk Roink are convinced it is White_Eyes:D and he hasn't denied it. It could be the case that the dead players are correct.

Also, your vote for Diana Abnoba is a pure WIFOM. It would be like if I was in the game and I was Mafia and YLC was in the game. I could kill him, but then, he would nag all game saying I purposefully killed him and because of that, I could get lynched, on the other hand, I could keep him alive and in the end game situation, he would turn everyone against me. Either way, would you find it suspicious if White_Eyes:D purposely kept Reenk and Khaan alive for that very purpose?

[White_eyes:D]

could someone give me a crash course on why Whiteyes would kill Reenk?

IDK.....both me and Reenk go way back....he is like my Rival, friend and mentor when it comes to Mafia....plus he and I think alike.....so he thinks that if I were Mafia and he were townie...I would kill him in an instant... (Which I might....but it has been awhile.....I missed him....so killing him is not what I would have done.....LYNCHING him....now that's poetry..)

[Tratorix]

The first bandwagon would be against Yarapolk and as you already see, he has the most votes. I doubt it is Yarapolk and just because he is the Mafia in another game, it could now mean he could even be a detective or the doctor and him getting lynched just because he was the Mafia in the other game would be a stupid mistake.

However, both Khaan and Reenk Roink are convinced it is White_Eyes:D and he hasn't denied it. It could be the case that the dead players are correct.

Also, your vote for Diana Abnoba is a pure WIFOM. It would be like if I was in the game and I was Mafia and YLC was in the game. I could kill him, but then, he would nag all game saying I purposefully killed him and because of that, I could get lynched, on the other hand, I could keep him alive and in the end game situation, he would turn everyone against me. Either way, would you find it suspicious if White_Eyes:D purposely kept Reenk and Khaan alive for that very purpose?

I voted for Diana because I don't like the logic of "WE would kill these people, they died, he is guilty". It's just as much WIFOM as you say the logic for my vote is. It wouldn't be hard for someone to kill them and get a bandwagon started on WE for this very reason.

Also, just because Reenk and Khaan are dead, doesn't mean they have any more information than we do. They are probably working from the same assumption as Diana..

[Beskar]

Yaropolk won the last TWO large games by lurking in the shadows and winning... Ichigo knows it must be him....both he and I were lynched....while he was laughing in the background...You were even against it....

But Yarapolk is not lurking, infact he was even the opening post. Him making that first post just placed him right onto the firing line and the Mafia could easily vote for Yarapolk using that same exact logic you are using, it also tops it up that you are just voting for Yarapolk because some one else did.

As for revenge of the dead ghosts, I had a strong gut feeling that Lord Winter was the killer, while a lesser one on Yarapolk. It turned out that Lord Winter was the killer. If anything, my gut feeling is telling me that Yarapolk is most likely innocent or a pro-town role as for some reason, I have the feeling that lynching him is a bad idea.

On the other hand, no offence, I have no real gut feelings about you, so gut feeling that some one is innocent then the other accusation about some one who I don't have the same gut feeling about, I think it is a safer risk to lynch you.

[Beskar]

I voted for Diana because I don't like the logic of "WE would kill these people, they died, he is guilty". It's just as much WIFOM as you say the logic for my vote is. It wouldn't be hard for someone to kill them and get a bandwagon started on WE for this very reason.

Also, just because Reenk and Khaan are dead, doesn't mean they have any more information than we do. They are probably working from the same assumption as Diana..

True, but White_Eyes:D isn't denying the fact either. It would be poetry for him to be Mafia and win the game and him boasting "I was caught out on first round and I surrived, awesomesauce".

[White_eyes:D]

But Yarapolk is not lurking, infact he was even the opening post. Him making that first post just placed him right onto the firing line and the Mafia could easily vote for Yarapolk using that same exact logic you are using, it also tops it up that you are just voting for Yarapolk because some one else did.

1) I voted for Yaropolk first...

2) You stink of desperation..... FOS:Beskar

[Tratorix]

True, but White_Eyes:D isn't denying the fact either. It would be poetry for him to be Mafia and win the game and him boasting "I was caught out on first round and I surrived, awesomesauce".

So, he's not denying that he would think about killing Reenk and Khaan first, and if we don't lynch him now he might say I told you so later? I don't buy it. This isn't set in stone, if we get toward the end of the round and don't have a clear target, lynch WE's. But, saying he is the best lynch right now just helps create a handy bandwagon for the mafia to hide behind.

[Beskar]

1) I voted for Yaropolk first...

2) You stink of desperation..... FOS:Beskar

1) No you didn't, Centurion1 did.

2) FOS:White_Eyes:D for lying. But to counter your claim, trying to save "another Mafia" is utterly retarded as it only exposes you, it is simple Mafia 101.

[White_eyes:D]

Unvote:Yaropolk Vote:Beskar see we need a tally......I had no idea he was in the lead....

[Beskar]

You changed your vote because you just got caught out lying?

Why you so defensive, White_Eyes:D ?

[White_eyes:D]

But to counter your claim, trying to save "another Mafia" is utterly retarded as it only exposes you, it is simple Mafia 101.

So basically I exposed my scum Buddy? Good work Beskar *Only good if Mafia*

[Tratorix]

Tally


Yaropolk (2): Centurion1, Ichigo
White Eyes (2): Beskar, Diana Abnoba
Diana Abnoba (1): Tratorix
Whiskers (1): White Eyes

[Beskar]

So basically I exposed my scum Buddy? Good work Beskar *Only good if Mafia*

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I called you out on your lying, so you changed your vote against me. It says enough about your case to execute you. You lie and cheat the town to try to get things your way. If you can lie about who even voted for Yarapolk first, you can easily lie saying you didn't kill those two, even though you said if you was Mafia, you would do. Too much of a coincidence, murderer.

[Tratorix]

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I called you out on your lying, so you changed your vote against me. It says enough about your case to execute you. You lie and cheat the town to try to get things your way. If you can lie about who even voted for Yarapolk first, you can easily lie saying you didn't kill those two, even though you said if you was Mafia, you would do. Too much of a coincidence, murderer.

Beskar, why would he lie about something that can easily be shown? It's not like he changed the thread to make it look like he voted Yaropolk first. Jumping on one of the first people accused doesn't help the town. Unvote, Vote: Beskar.

[White_eyes:D]

Don't care....if town thinks I am guilty....go head but otherwise just stop posting.....I know your YLC is not here but stop with the Spanish inquisition

[Beskar]

Beskar, why would he lie about something that can easily be shown? It's not like he changed the thread to make it look like he voted Yaropolk first. Jumping on one of the first people accused doesn't help the town. Unvote, Vote: Beskar.

When you read what he said, did you go to the previous page to check if that was actually the case or did you take it for granted that he was automatically telling the truth?

Again, you vote for some one voting against White_Eyes:D while you ignore the people voting for Yaropolk like Ichigo who are obviously bandwagoning, hm?