Princess in EBII

[Megas Methuselah]

We cannot simulate everything, and the game is not designed to allow such micromanaging of family politics in the patrician class of rome. You just can't do it to the degree you wish to. Its a non-starter. What we have to decide is how much can we reasonably simulate given the focus and limitations of the game.

Foot

Does that mean princesses will still be in the game?

[Foot]

Does that mean princesses will still be in the game?

There is still some debate on the issue (particularly with regards certain aspects of their abilities), but at the moment they are still in.

Foot

[Megas Methuselah]

[Cute Wolf]

There is still some debate on the issue (particularly with regards certain aspects of their abilities), but at the moment they are still in.

Foot

Ability for the Diplomacy? (Which I think they are still fine...) Well educated princess sometimes could topple hard core generals.... Remembar how Cleopatra conquer Julius Caesar and Mark Anthony's hearts??? that's why they are still logical to have diplomatic skills...

Or the ability to "steal" away enemy generals without takin any money or factional standing (have my gens and FM "stolen" by rival princess)... they are just fine... and especialy I laugh with Tears when my 10 stars Guillemot de Lyon decide to leave me because he marry a beautiful Milan Princess... when he was allready 58 years old (at least he does deserve a companionship with 19 y (the last time I see that princess) )

[antisocialmunky]

I think its more for the diplomatic marriages of the AS and Ptolies.

[Sarkiss]

There is still some debate on the issue (particularly with regards certain aspects of their abilities), but at the moment they are still in.

Foot

they, as we all know, do two things:
1. engage in diplomacy as diplomat would
2. can be married off to a general. not necessarily an alien general but your own who got dubious loyalty but otherwise good traits. it may be a very important move too, especially if you're playing a small faction with only couple of FMs
but there is a third thing that i wasnt aware of until yesterday and that outweighs the first two. you can also get a marriage alliance with another faction if its leader is single. and that is "stronger than a regular alliance".
i didnt even know that was possible and considered princesses as another addition that does really add much to the game. but with this new discovered feature things start to look very different and reflect true state of affairs.

[Apraxiteles]

Unfortunately, removing their diplomatic ability would almost certainly eliminate their most useful feature, the marriage alliance. Unless this is changeable somehow, the only way to marry a princess is to enter diplomacy directly with her.

[Sarkiss]

Unfortunately, removing their diplomatic ability would almost certainly eliminate their most useful feature, the marriage alliance. Unless this is changeable somehow, the only way to marry a princess is to enter diplomacy directly with her.

nope. diplomats do that (option appears) when you get a princess and faction have a single FL.

[Apraxiteles]

nope. diplomats do that (option appears) when you get a princess and faction have a single FL.

Do you mean having your diplomat negotiate with a foreign diplomat? Because I know that directing a diplomat to a foreign city or unit does not give you the option. I remember having to chase down foreign princesses to ask for their hand as they tromped all over Europe. I never bothered to contact foreign diplomats about it though, as they were usually even more elusive than foreign princesses. If you are correct, how do you chose which one you get to marry? There are often multiple ones per faction, and some of them you decidedly do not want to marry into your family.

[miotas]

Do you mean having your diplomat negotiate with a foreign diplomat? Because I know that directing a diplomat to a foreign city or unit does not give you the option. I remember having to chase down foreign princesses to ask for their hand as they tromped all over Europe. I never bothered to contact foreign diplomats about it though, as they were usually even more elusive than foreign princesses. If you are correct, how do you chose which one you get to marry? There are often multiple ones per faction, and some of them you decidedly do not want to marry into your family.

Town, FM, diplomat, all can be approached for a marriage alliance by either your own princess or diplomat. I'm not sure how the princess is chosen but it's probably just the eldest that will be married, as regular marriages usually go from oldest to youngest.

[Prussian to the Iron]

but there is a third thing that i wasnt aware of until yesterday and that outweighs the first two. you can also get a marriage alliance with another faction if its leader is single. and that is "stronger than a regular alliance".
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you can also marry them to another factions prince and gain an alliance.

[antisocialmunky]

Can we roleplay Ptolemy and marry our own princesses for children with funny shaped heads?

[satalexton]

maybe we can modify them into princes....and have them 'sent over' as hostages...

[Ibrahim]

Can we roleplay Ptolemy and marry our own princesses for children with funny shaped heads?

I say use them as they were used in the day: for marriege, diplocy, or even, as this sheenius here suggests, incest.

[miotas]

Being able to marry my 3x10 mercenary general into the family sounds pretty good to me.

[Tyrfingr]

Can we roleplay Ptolemy and marry our own princesses for children with funny shaped heads?

Suggestion for trait:

Inbred retard - The eyes are a little too close, and why is he growing horns? Maybe having your father marrying your mother (his sister) might not have been the best idea... (-9 in fertility or whatever makes the bastard sterile, -9 intelligence).