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    Read the Gospel of Judas. Very enlightening.

    In this he is described as the first of the twelve, given the task ordained by God to betray Jesus.

    There's more excluded from the New Testament than remains. Lots that didn't make the cut doesn't appear to be"on message" and like modern day back benchers was silenced.

    I don't understand that considering the large numbers of works that were written, how did the Bishops know which were divinely written by proxy and which were not - or were all the editors also divinely possessed, as well as those that chose the editors and so on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    I don't understand that considering the large numbers of works that were written, how did the Bishops know which were divinely written by proxy and which were not - or were all the editors also divinely possessed, as well as those that chose the editors and so on...

    That is a question I haven't really found an answer to except the one you gave, they were also divinely inspired to choose the right works. It all does seem a bit wonky though and one could wonder how the different groups of chrisitanity come into that as in some accept this selection as the catholic church made it and others may not, I think there are a few differences here and there but then who made the real, true, divinely inspired works and selections? Does god really care whether we choose the right ones? This is a hard one and most will tell you that god will let you know when you make the right choices but all believers from all denominations will tell you that god told them that they made the right choice...

    It's one of the things that actually made me drift towards the agnotic/atheist corner.
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    You could just simplify the whole thing by taking my view, that until we die there is no possible way to know what's what, so just stop worrying about and get on with life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Read the Gospel of Judas. Very enlightening.

    In this he is described as the first of the twelve, given the task ordained by God to betray Jesus.

    There's more excluded from the New Testament than remains. Lots that didn't make the cut doesn't appear to be"on message" and like modern day back benchers was silenced.

    I don't understand that considering the large numbers of works that were written, how did the Bishops know which were divinely written by proxy and which were not - or were all the editors also divinely possessed, as well as those that chose the editors and so on...

    This assumes the Gospel of Judas is correct. As I said, it does not appear in records until 120, and irrc the extant copy is philologically dated to be later. All of the Canonical Gospels are dated to before 100 AB, with the possible exception of John. In any case, the "silencing" is a result of modern printing methods, apophrycal books were read and studied during the medieval epoch, as were the Letters of the Church Fathers.

    Personally, I do not give this conspiracy theory and more credence than the lies the Inquisition spread about the Temple Knights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    This assumes the Gospel of Judas is correct. As I said, it does not appear in records until 120, and irrc the extant copy is philologically dated to be later. All of the Canonical Gospels are dated to before 100 AB, with the possible exception of John. In any case, the "silencing" is a result of modern printing methods, apophrycal books were read and studied during the medieval epoch, as were the Letters of the Church Fathers.

    Personally, I do not give this conspiracy theory and more credence than the lies the Inquisition spread about the Temple Knights.
    Of course. And seeing as there is no more evidence for this one compared to the four that were chosen - a minority of those that were written that we know of. What explanation is there that all these other texts were excluded? Most were written decades after the event including those that are canonical.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
    Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
    "If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
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