Mafia Mongolica [Concluded]

[A Very Super Market]

No kills? Interesting.

[TinCow]

That is... odd. I can't think of any reason to skip kills this early in a game except for failure to submit PMs. Worth noting the comet had two tails. Is that a hint that both mafioso are still alive? Gonna eat my hat on this one, because this pretty much clears Reenk in my mind. I simply don't think he'd skip a kill at this phase of the game, and he's not the type to forget to submit orders. I think we need to be looking at the lurkers.

[Askthepizzaguy]

There's only been one kill per night so far... roleblocking, perhaps?

I'd also consider the possibility of how convincing it would be to not kill, thus putting the suspicion on the inactive players. That would be the perfect way to escape being lynched for several rounds.

[White_eyes:D]

I have been thinking....could it be that they are charging up there kills??
I find it unlikely, that a Role blocker could have been blocking the same guy for three nights in a row...

[Beskar]

I find it unlikely, that a Role blocker could have been blocking the same guy for three nights in a row...

LOL, that would actually be highly hilarious.

Mafia: *gets another failed PM* "STOP ROLEBLOCKIJNG ME!!!! "
Roleblocker: lulz

[White_eyes:D]

YLC been blocking you again? Maybe you really are Mafia this time???

Otherwise, I can't see a roleblocker blocking someone for three night phases...nobody has been really scumming... Other then maybe Beskar (but you always are...)

Only people I could think of having the Brass ones to pull this off would be...

Reenk
ATPG
TinCow (I admit I have never seen him as Mafia yet...)
Beskar (he is always suspicious)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Uh, if I had roleblocked someone for 3 nights and there was only 1 murder each night, I'd certainly tell someone. Like, everyone. I'd say "hi everyone maybe you should lynch this person because you know, 3 nights in a row..."

what I meant was... one murder, that murderer got roleblocked?

[White_eyes:D]

It is weird how no one claimed the role....

which leaves that the Mafia are still trying to figure out if there is one.....watch, we well get a fake reveal come tomorrow...

If anyone claims....we should lynch the guy who they have been blocking....but we should also lynch the roleblocker just to be sure, since he well be killed during the night anyway and if not he is scum...

Only other thing I can think of...is that they are lurkers

Edit:of course the power-up theory could be true

[Death is yonder]

To begin with, why only 1 kill a night?

Weren't there two mafia to begin with?

Now there are 0 kills, its probably the mafia's fault or the roleblocker, we probably haven't lynched them yet.

That the camp was infiltrated by enemy agents so soon after Jenghiz departed was troubling. That he was having so much difficulty catching them was even more ominous.

On the other hand, perhaps they had executed the last one. ??

Does that mean there are one left?

Worth noting the comet had two tails.

I agree,

"I needed a good omen, not a disaster!"

I think the write up is pretty much begging for us to realize that there are still two mafia.

[Reenk Roink]

My thoughts on everything:

It's doubtful that the 1 kill per night was due to a roleblocker. The most likely explanations off the top of my head for that are that the roleblocker isn't allowed to say anything about his role/actions, or maybe he doesn't realize that he is being effective, or he doesn't want to reveal for whatever reason (maybe he doesn't want to expose himself). All of those seem incredibly far fetched though.

That being said, it is a possibility there was a roleblock just tonight, and that ain't as far fetched. Let's wait and see what happens on that route...

As to why there has only been 1 kill in the previous rounds, maybe it's just the way it goes. It wouldn't be the first time a group of Mafia has been limited to 1 kill per night. Or maybe the Mafia is trying to fake us out as mentioned before.

Lastly for the reasons why there wasn't a kill, I can only give the obvious. Either split was Mafia or the Mafia wanted us to think split was Mafia. I don't like the former because I never thought split was Mafia. Perhaps someone failed to send an order in, the night did last long, maybe khaan waited and waited. I like this last explanation the best.

I think it's unlikely Beskar would not kill someone every night. He is a very active player and he even questioned the notion of not killing earlier and implied that it didn't make sense to him.

So for now, the Beskar-Atpg guilt thing will take a backseat to my other main suspect Sigurd. I can understand how Sigurd would perhaps not be able to send in an order and I can also see him purposely faking us out in this way. At least more so than Beskar-Atpg.

Since all of you seem to be too sissy to vote , I'll kick it off again: Vote: Sigurd

Sigurd: 1 (Reenk Roink)

P.S: TinCow, I have missed many a order in these games. My time available for these games varies greatly by day and there have been certain stretches where I simply have not been able (or willing) to bother with Mafia. I'll give you this though, my involvement in this game is a lot higher than most, as I find myself quite involved and somewhat am enjoying the playstyle.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: pevergreen

I seem to recall in the past, pever had a nasty habit of forgetting to send in his night actions. I also am not sure how seriously he's been taking these games recently. But that's just an opinion based on observations.

[TinCow]

As Reenk has already gotten the ball rolling on Sigurd, I will support him. Despite multiple requests previously, Sigurd did not respond to questions when prompted. Time to start talking.

Vote: Sigurd

[Jolt]

Comets are often white, and the two tails clearly means something which is plural, which can be eyes.

Vote: White_Eyes :D

[Askthepizzaguy]

That... actually makes sense. That's better than my theory.

unvote, vote: White_Eyes:D



Tally:

Sigurd: 2 (Reenk Roink, TinCow)
WhiteEyes: 2 (Jolt, Askthepizzaguy)

[ULC]

*sets up stand*

Come one come all! Right here, do I have one of the rarest commodities - a vote, that can double your own vote! Few, in fact no votes today, can do that. However, many a merchant will sell you this same said vote for ridiculous prices - however, not I! I will sell it to you dirt cheap, and if you bid within the next 6 hours, your vote will not only be doubled today, but doubled the next day as well! Quadruple the voting power!

Hurry, offer good while supplies lasts.

[A Very Super Market]

And better than the Sigurd theory? Seriously? A host giving away the mafia with silly clues?

Vote: Sigurd

[Death is yonder]

The comet in particularly is blue.

An angry, blue fireball strode across the heavens at astonishing speed.

I won't join the Sigurd bandwagon, I think he should have a chance to respond first.

Difference between Tincow's pressure vote and the massive bandwagon building.

[Beskar]

YLC, vote for White_Eyes:D, I will buy your limited offer.

The reasons for this vote? it is a revenge vote because he is being a ninkenpoop and first-round voting me in pretty much every game and it is annoying.

Vote: White_Eyes:D

[Chaotix]

Since all of you seem to be too sissy to vote , I'll kick it off again: Vote: Sigurd

What happened to "abstaining, courteously"?


Vote: YLC

You must have some sort of a role. Although I don't believe it's mafia... we are looking for a roleblocker. Do you have any abilities we should know about, or do you know of anyone else with an ability? How much does knowledge sell for, these days?

[Reenk Roink]

*sets up stand*

Come one come all! Right here, do I have one of the rarest commodities - a vote, that can double your own vote! Few, in fact no votes today, can do that. However, many a merchant will sell you this same said vote for ridiculous prices - however, not I! I will sell it to you dirt cheap, and if you bid within the next 6 hours, your vote will not only be doubled today, but doubled the next day as well! Quadruple the voting power!

Hurry, offer good while supplies lasts.

Good sir, I know that Beskar has made an offer to purchase your vote, but you already know of his attempts at shady dealing before. I on the other hand am a tenured customer who has always stood up for your trade. If you would consider my request to sell me your vote and vote for Sigurd despite my offer coming later I would be very grateful (though I completely understand if you choose not to). After all, what I am using your product for is for a much more beneficial purpose to the whole community than what behind the scenes Beskar is.

[White_eyes:D]

Comets are often white, and the two tails clearly means something which is plural, which can be eyes.

Vote: White_Eyes :D

Your like the new Ares/Thermal Mercury...."His eyes are as white as a sheet" Vote:Jolt

Edit: I mean you think Khaan would make such a oblivious clue?

[ULC]

YLC, vote for White_Eyes:D, I will buy your limited offer.

The reasons for this vote? it is a revenge vote because he is being a ninkenpoop and first-round voting me in pretty much every game and it is annoying. (for example, see MGS game and others)

Vote: White_Eyes:D

You attempted to subvert my normal method of business by trying to convince me to sell to you behind close doors.

I am capable of refusing business to anyone I wish.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Edit: I mean you think Khaan would make such a oblivious clue?

Come now, I've heard stranger theories today. For example:

Only people I could think of having the Brass ones to pull this off would be...

Reenk
ATPG
TinCow (I admit I have never seen him as Mafia yet...)
Beskar (he is always suspicious)

[Beskar]

You attempted to subvert my normal method of business by trying to convince me to sell to you behind close doors.

I am capable of refusing business to anyone I wish.

No, I didn't, I only offered to take up your service. All you had to do was simply say "Sure, post it in the thread", however, instead of that, you didn't reply then you slandered my good name in public, trying to say I was going behind peoples back, which is an false accusation.

Making an enquiry if you would be interested is not the same as deceit, I was just making sure you wouldn't refuse the request making me look silly in public, so I asked in private first if you would.

[ULC]

Good sir, I know that Beskar has made an offer to purchase your vote, but you already know of his attempts at shady dealing before. I on the other hand am a tenured customer who has always stood up for your trade. If you would consider my request to sell me your vote and vote for Sigurd despite my offer coming later I would be very grateful (though I completely understand if you choose not to). After all, what I am using your product for is for a much more beneficial purpose to the whole community than what behind the scenes Beskar is.

Good sir, your coin is always good here.

Vote:Beskar

[Beskar]

Good sir, your coin is always good here.

Vote:Beskar

You are a bad businessman, you messed up your order

f you would consider my request to sell me your vote and vote for Sigurd despite my offer coming later I would be very grateful

That is now three apologises you owe. 2 to me and 1 to Reenk Roink.

1) For the false accusation.
2) For falsely voting for me.
3) Not getting Reenk Roink the order he asked for.

[ULC]

No, I didn't, I only offered to take up your service. All you had to do was simply say "Sure, post it in the thread", however, instead of that, you didn't reply then you slandered my good name in public, trying to say I was going behind peoples back, which is an false accusation.

Making an enquiry if you would be interested is not the same as deceit, I was just making sure you wouldn't refuse the request making me look silly in public, so I asked in private first if you would.

You will have to forgive me, but if what you say is true, that makes you only a craven coward.

If what you say is false, it is because you had ulterior motive, such as slandering mine and that of my business, or of trying to sway the merchant, I, behind close doors.

Either way sir, you are neither honest, with yourself or with others, and do you have a spine.

[White_eyes:D]

But Khaan never gives clues.... and you guys would have the stones to do it...

Well....I guess I should keep going like any good townie but I am very tempted to get myself lynched to prove you wrong....(It's what I do when someone comes up with a theory, so bad I feel like my eyes hurt just looking at it)

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think a refund is in order.

[Beskar]

I think a refund is in order.

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