Do You, or Have You Ever, Lived in the United States? Then You Are a Filthy Criminal.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Marijuana is the same as drinking alchohol and smoking ciggarettes at the same time. Illegal.

not-Buckling my seatbelt is my own concern and no business of the government. illegal

the speed limits are set so low that any reasonable person is breaking them at all times, except for some blind old codger who is barely satisfying the speed minimums. illegal

sharing music online. (which you could be doing by simply playing your stereo too loudly at a party) and nobody has lost anything material. illegal.

There are absurd reasons to arrest anyone for anything and seize property. It sucks and we are less free because of this nonsense.

[Rhyfelwyr]

not-Buckling my seatbelt is my own concern and no business of the government. illegal

Not if you're in the back, then you could heabutt your mum and kill her...

EDIT: To clarify, I had that idea from an advert in which the driver was the mum of the kid riding in the back of the car, when they crashed he flew forward and smacked into the back of her head. I've got to stop posting while distracted...

[Reverend Joe]

Marijuana is the same as drinking alchohol and smoking ciggarettes at the same time. Illegal.

(Yeah, I'm one to talk... before I hung out in the backroom I thought big government was a good thing.)

[Aemilius Paulus]

( before I hung out in the backroom I thought big government was a good thing.)

Let us not get into extremes upon hearing some sensationalist news. I agree the things in the opening post are inexcusably outrageous, but small government has its pitfalls as well. I take moderation in liberal-conservative debate very much seriously.

This is something that should be fixed, but no single event, no matter how frequent those freak accidents occur, should instantly be considered as a direct and practical repudiation of a political model.

[HoreTore]

Why is this a question of small government vs. big government, when it should be a question of good government vs. bad government?

[Aemilius Paulus]

Why is this a question of small government vs. big government, when it should be a question of good government vs. bad government?

Because it is impossible to define "good" government, and naive to extreme to even try. Italy has the still-all-powerful Mafia; Eastern European countries the corruption in ever place, nook, and cranny; US the all-powerful lobbies, which makes US legislature not a matter of whether it works, but how many and which lobbies it pleases, and which it does not. As someone here before stated, a mod I believe, "different cheeks, same ********".

[Crazed Rabbit]

Why is this a question of small government vs. big government, when it should be a question of good government vs. bad government?

Because big government is bad government. That's the whole point.

The bigger the government is - the more aspects it regulates by making laws against whatever it wants, the worse it becomes.

CR

[HoreTore]

Because big government is bad government. That's the whole point.

The bigger the government is - the more aspects it regulates by making laws against whatever it wants, the worse it becomes.

CR

Scandinavia calls your bluff.

[Vladimir]

Scandinavia calls your bluff.

East Germany calls yours.

[Husar]

sharing music online. (which you could be doing by simply playing your stereo too loudly at a party) and nobody has lost anything material. illegal.

Unless it's human beatbox music they usually bought some instruments, booked or bought a studio etc. to record that music, why is it wrong if they want something in return for those investments? So yeah, they do lose something material because they invested money to make that music in the first place.
And those who just make music because they love doing it and want to make people happy won't ask for money anyway and thus sharing their music is not illegal.

[Reverend Joe]

Unless it's human beatbox music they usually bought some instruments, booked or bought a studio etc. to record that music, why is it wrong if they want something in return for those investments? So yeah, they do lose something material because they invested money to make that music in the first place.
And those who just make music because they love doing it and want to make people happy won't ask for money anyway and thus sharing their music is not illegal.

How many of the old bluesman or folk singers made any realistic amount of money by putting their music to record? None. And that's the way it should be. Musicians are supposed to make their money by actually performing their music to others, not recording a performance and sitting on their fat asses and waiting for the money to roll in. Making money off being a "studio band" is for people like the Beatles. Making money live is what real musicians do.

[HoreTore]

Unless it's human beatbox music they usually bought some instruments, booked or bought a studio etc. to record that music, why is it wrong if they want something in return for those investments? So yeah, they do lose something material because they invested money to make that music in the first place.
And those who just make music because they love doing it and want to make people happy won't ask for money anyway and thus sharing their music is not illegal.

Who says you have to earn millions if you make music?

Why isn't it good enough to make 100.000USD a year? And why shouldn't musicians have to have a normal job in addition to their music?

[Husar]

Who says you have to earn millions if you make music?

Noone?!

Noone forces you to buy it, doesn't mean you have a right to listen to it.

How many of the old bluesman or folk singers made any realistic amount of money by putting their music to record? None. And that's the way it should be. Musicians are supposed to make their money by actually performing their music to others, not recording a performance and sitting on their fat asses and waiting for the money to roll in. Making money off being a "studio band" is for people like the Beatles. Making money live is what real musicians do.

That's the way you like it, personally I prefer listening to music at home over going to a loud concert.
You can do just that, go to concerts and ignore their CDs and records, that's not illegal, so why exactly are you complaining? They only make millions because millions of people actually buy their CDs or records, it's not like they're taking the money out of peoples' pockets. If listening to a concert is the only real way to listen to music then why do you feel you need to have a right to own a digital copy of that music for free?

[naut]

Marijuana is the same as drinking alchohol and smoking ciggarettes at the same time. Illegal.

Must contain laughter.

Cannot contain laughter from hilarity of statement.

[AlexanderSextus]

Must contain laughter.

Cannot contain laughter from hilarity of statement.

he was saying that since marijuana is basically the same as smoking a ciggarette and getting intoxicated on the level of alcohol, its illegality is dumb.

Dont mind psychonaut ppl, he's just RLY HIGH....

speaking of that, i wish the piff man was awake right now.