Practical and Cultured?

**Valion** · 07-27-2009, 08:25

Well if being pedantic as a negative trait for a FM of mine then that is something i can live with, For one influence isnt that hard to get, I'l just hope they dont go past Erudite.

**Holysahib** · 07-27-2009, 13:04

Originally Posted by Valion

Well if being pedantic as a negative trait for a FM of mine then that is something i can live with, For one influence isnt that hard to get, I'l just hope they dont go past Erudite.

It sometimes works to move a FM out of a city once he recieves the Erudite trait, if you leave him outside (without a Tutor, or cource) for 1 turn, his education (the cultured-erudite-scholastic thing) stops. After that you can move him back to get extra traits, like philosopher, poet or the all-important Logistics

**WinsingtonIII** · 07-28-2009, 01:44

I think the reason why a FM who moves beyond erudite to scholastic would lose management is because he has crossed the line from being cultured and enjoying academics to being more concerned with academics then he is with his job (namely governing your city). Basically, instead of managing your city, he is sitting in the library reading Socrates, which is why he loses management.

**Holysahib** · 08-06-2009, 13:08

Originally Posted by WinsingtonIII

Basically, instead of managing your city, he is sitting in the library reading Socrates, which is why he loses management.

That's funny, Socrates didn't write anything.

**Conradus** · 08-06-2009, 14:43

Originally Posted by Holysahib

That's funny, Socrates didn't write anything.

Hardly makes any difference since Plato wrote down a lot of what he said (or what Plato wanted him to say).

**Holysahib** · 08-06-2009, 15:38

Originally Posted by Conradus

Hardly makes any difference since Plato wrote down a lot of what he said (or what Plato wanted him to say).

Exactly, Socrates as historical figure vs. Socrates as a literary device exempt from criticism.
I suddenly see a interesting parallel between Socrates and Jezus...

**Conradus** · 08-06-2009, 19:44

Originally Posted by Holysahib

Exactly, Socrates as historical figure vs. Socrates as a literary device exempt from criticism.
I suddenly see a interesting parallel between Socrates and Jezus...

Nevermind now that most of what we know of Socrates as a historical figure comes from Plato too ;) (

**Aemilius Paulus** · 08-08-2009, 00:52

Originally Posted by Holysahib

I suddenly see a interesting parallel between Socrates and Jezus...

Not just them. A great deal of the founders of philosophical/religious movements did not write their thoughts down. Lao Tzu for instance, has a story about him that he was leaving China and the border-guard, after quite a bit of persuading, finally talked him into writing down his beliefs. Yet Old Master's writings spanned only ~500 words. Which sort of fits the Taoist idea of wu-wei (non-action) principle.

Or so the story goes, which is thought to be true, but I am not entirely sure here. Well, at least Huston Smith said it was true, and the only person greater than him in his field would be Joseph Campbell, who did not mention this story.

**WinsingtonIII** · 08-10-2009, 01:34

Originally Posted by Holysahib

That's funny, Socrates didn't write anything.

Sorry, my mistake. Let's say your family member is reading what are essentially Socrates ideas as written by Plato. Thus, he spends all his time doing this, and neglects his duties as governor. Does my theory make sense now?