Quote Originally Posted by King Kurt View Post
My God it must be crowded in the wide open plains

As for the Monty/ Patton debate - well nobody is likely to agree about that. Monty was a cautious grinder style of general - but he did consistentantly win with a careful application of resources. His biggest failure was Market Garden - but that was the time he acted most "Un-Monty". Patton was a gung-ho, damn the torpedoes style of general - great PR, but you do wonder how good he really was. Like many an up and coming heavyweight fighting a series of bums, his victories, on the whole, were against the lesser German generals and inferior troops. I wonder how well his style would have fared on the Eastern Front against the first division Germans.... or the Russians who he seemed so keen to fight as well.

In my view both did OK, but neither were truelly stellar. The problem is they had probably the best PR machines. If I had to choose one to serve under, I would choose Monty because I think he would be more cautious with my life than Patton ever would - a man who showed his true feelings for his troops by slapping a man with shell shock.

The midwest doesn't include just Kansas and Oklahoma,Iowa,and Illonois.Throw in states like Ohio and parts of others like Pennsylvania and it matches up.

Another thing is that if you took the whole developed area of the US and all its population you would be able to fit both within 5% of its surface area.

Don't laugh so fast.