Morale after a generals death

**A Very Super Market** · 08-05-2009, 06:23

Extreme loyalty in bodyguard units, or elites does not constitute as great examples, as it's almost a given when dealing with the quality of troops here. Had Alexander fallen while leading an army based mainly on levies (Be the Makedonian, Greek, or Persian, it doesn't matter) they would certainly have disintegrated and fled.

**Chris1959** · 08-05-2009, 09:07

Actually when you look through history there are far more occasions when mortally wounded leaders tried to conceal their deaths from their men; Nelson at Trafalgar, Wolfe at Quebec etc.

We should not get carried away and allow the extreme exception become the rule which then distorts the balance of the game. If we had a berserker bonus for the death of a General it wouldn't be long before useless FM's were leading armies and suicide charging pike blocks in the hope of getting an army morale boost and a kamikaze bodyguard.

**Phalanx300** · 08-05-2009, 14:45

Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Extreme loyalty in bodyguard units, or elites does not constitute as great examples, as it's almost a given when dealing with the quality of troops here. Had Alexander fallen while leading an army based mainly on levies (Be the Makedonian, Greek, or Persian, it doesn't matter) they would certainly have disintegrated and fled.

It does, if its a given then why do you appose it?

And I'm more talking about the morale of the bodyguards and elite units.

**Elzeda** · 08-05-2009, 16:37

Armies wouldn't do this for just anybody. I'm thinking, maybe you could create a very-hard-to-get trait that would have this effect. This way, the army would only go really crazy for good kings or exceptionnal generals. I don't know if it's possible to mod, but maybe create a trait that gives 50% chance of the army going berserk on the general's death.

**A Very Super Market** · 08-05-2009, 18:41

Because elite units are already notoriously difficult to rout anyways!

**Hanoeman** · 08-05-2009, 22:02

I don't think it would be very realistic. There are probably as many cases of elite warriors killing their leader (Caligula for example) as there are of elite warriors dying for him. I'd be more in favour of a general who loots an x amount of cities getting a +1 morale bonus for giving all of that sweet loot to his soldiers.