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    Default Re: Are we better off without pants?

    Of course the best item of clothing to keep you cool when it's hot is a big floppy broad brimmed hat, even better is a flap cap(but those look daggy )
    Or that Arabian dress mentioned by Ibrahim. Actually if it wouldn't look weird I would wear turban or hat all summer.

    Back to topic. I believe that underwear has many pros. One of the the most prominent is that it protects against infection (especially women who have shorter urethra). Infection of urinary system could be really nasty (haven't experienced myself fortunately).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andronikos View Post
    Or that Arabian dress mentioned by Ibrahim. Actually if it wouldn't look weird I would wear turban or hat all summer.
    I agree that it would be cooler, but I don't think it would be as practical as trousers, and why is wearing a hat when it's hot weird?
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    Question Re: Are we better off without pants?

    So what would Romans wear in/near the Alps, in the winter?

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    I think pants were introduced by eastern peoples who used them for riding horses. Their use would have become common in roman-barbarian kingdoms, i think. Anyway, they are obviously better for riding and for rough terrains, where larger tunics would become trapped by plants, spikes, and other similar.

    All of this is IMHO, i've no historical evidence of that.

    @Aemilius- they wear their standard clothes, i think. Culture is hard to change, even if you are freezing your jewels XD

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    Personally, I wear both pants and my kilt whenever it suits my fancy. Mainly, though, its to show a little bit of pride in my Scottish ancestry and, in my own way, fight a minuscule battle against the 'sheep-like' conformists putting a damper on one's own personal expression, whatever that may be. Also, its to encourage others of Scottish ancestry that its 'ok' to break away every now and then and experience something much more fulfilling in wearing a little piece of (your) history.

    Here is a pic that my wife took of me at the carwash:


    This was long before I started lifting weights so I look rather skinny:


    Seriously though, its a great experience wearing the kilt. Heres a few reasons why:

    1) I've gotten pretty much 100% positive feedback from a lot of folks that are total strangers but that approach me because of it and we start of a nice lil' conversation about it. That alone make it worth it.

    2) My clan is Mac Leod of Harris if anyone is wondering. Same as Duncan Mac Leod of Highlander fame. You become twice as cool in your kilt when you mention that fact hehe...

    3) Thought I am very happily married, chicks do dig it and I have been asked by a few if I "wear anything under the kilt." You won't get that kind of attention or question wearing pants!

    4) Those pics are over a year old, and I've since started lifting weights. Therefore the physical intimidation factor goes through the roof and its a great deterrent for any English enemies out there that may wish to start something with me (lol).

    5) The kilt keeps your, eh, 'manhood' nice and cool as you walk due to the breeze created from the sway of the kilt, and in the winter keeps certain areas of the said region from retreating into your abdomen...seriously. It is the *perfect* comfort and it agrees with your male anatomy far better than pants do.

    So if you have Scots blood/ancestry I encourage you to find what clan your are aligned with and get yourself a kilt! Concerning the thread topic, I do not think that were are better off without pants, I will say from everyday experience that both pants and kilts have their own set of advantages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power2the1 View Post
    5) The kilt keeps your, eh, 'manhood' nice and cool as you walk due to the breeze created from the sway of the kilt, and in the winter keeps certain areas of the said region from retreating into your abdomen...seriously. It is the *perfect* comfort and it agrees with your male anatomy far better than pants do.
    Heh heh. I used to know this one punk back in high school who wore his kilt quite often. When I would ask him why, he'd respond, "Because I like the wind on my balls."

    But I'm guessing this would be another reason, too:

    3) Thought I am very happily married, chicks do dig it and I have been asked by a few if I "wear anything under the kilt." You won't get that kind of attention or question wearing pants!
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    Conclusion - chicks dig guys who wear skirts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power2the1 View Post

    1) I've gotten pretty much 100% positive feedback from a lot of folks that are total strangers but that approach me because of it and we start of a nice lil' conversation about it. That alone make it worth it.
    Being scottish I wouldn't get this as much as whenever you see somone wearing a kilt in scotland you just assume there's a wedding nearby (which is usually the case). There is a guy near where i live who walks around in a Great Kilt though, now that turns heads.

    2) My clan is Mac Leod of Harris if anyone is wondering. Same as Duncan Mac Leod of Highlander fame. You become twice as cool in your kilt when you mention that fact hehe...
    Mines is MacDonald of the Isles, I'm sure at some point down the line of history our ancestors were knocking lumps out of each other on a bog somewhere.

    3) Thought I am very happily married, chicks do dig it and I have been asked by a few if I "wear anything under the kilt." You won't get that kind of attention or question wearing pants!
    Even in scotland somone will invariably say this at least once, it almost a tradition!

    5) The kilt keeps your, eh, 'manhood' nice and cool as you walk due to the breeze created from the sway of the kilt, and in the winter keeps certain areas of the said region from retreating into your abdomen...seriously. It is the *perfect* comfort and it agrees with your male anatomy far better than pants do.
    They are surprisingly warm but when the wind gets up it can be a pain. Plus there's the whole etiquette on sitting down with out exposing yourself
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    On the OT i pretty much hold the same veiw as The Persian Cataphract in that the main reason for the adoption of trousers is practicality, there was a reason highlanders took off their kilts before battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    Mines is MacDonald of the Isles, I'm sure at some point down the line of history our ancestors were knocking lumps out of each other on a bog somewhere.
    Really now?

    The last Scottish Highlander battle of the clans that we know of pitted my clan Mac Leòid against your Mac Dhamhnuill clan. After a long battle that lasted most of the day I must say my clan was forced to give way to yours. You are my sworn enemy now, you dirty Mac Dhamhnuill!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power2the1 View Post
    Personally, I wear both pants and my kilt whenever it suits my fancy. Mainly, though, its to show a little bit of pride in my Scottish ancestry and, in my own way, fight a minuscule battle against the 'sheep-like' conformists putting a damper on one's own personal expression, whatever that may be. Also, its to encourage others of Scottish ancestry that its 'ok' to break away every now and then and experience something much more fulfilling in wearing a little piece of (your) history.

    Here is a pic that my wife took of me at the carwash:


    This was long before I started lifting weights so I look rather skinny:


    Seriously though, its a great experience wearing the kilt. Heres a few reasons why:

    1) I've gotten pretty much 100% positive feedback from a lot of folks that are total strangers but that approach me because of it and we start of a nice lil' conversation about it. That alone make it worth it.

    2) My clan is Mac Leod of Harris if anyone is wondering. Same as Duncan Mac Leod of Highlander fame. You become twice as cool in your kilt when you mention that fact hehe...

    3) Thought I am very happily married, chicks do dig it and I have been asked by a few if I "wear anything under the kilt." You won't get that kind of attention or question wearing pants!

    4) Those pics are over a year old, and I've since started lifting weights. Therefore the physical intimidation factor goes through the roof and its a great deterrent for any English enemies out there that may wish to start something with me (lol).

    5) The kilt keeps your, eh, 'manhood' nice and cool as you walk due to the breeze created from the sway of the kilt, and in the winter keeps certain areas of the said region from retreating into your abdomen...seriously. It is the *perfect* comfort and it agrees with your male anatomy far better than pants do.

    So if you have Scots blood/ancestry I encourage you to find what clan your are aligned with and get yourself a kilt! Concerning the thread topic, I do not think that were are better off without pants, I will say from everyday experience that both pants and kilts have their own set of advantages.
    Supises me you aren't having Casse in your sig as well seing the Highlander spirit.


    And it depends on your location I gues, many people around the mediteranian opted for.. dresses. While men in colder areas went for trousers, except the Highlanders, they were crazy(in a good way).

    And if this charges at you with a dress it loses its fear appeal somewhat:



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    I think pants are necessary in colder climates (at least in the winter). Talk to any woman from a generation that was forced to always wear dresses and skirts year round when in school and they will tell you all about how miserable it is to wear a dress when it is below freezing. In the summer, a little breeze would probably be very nice, but in the dead of winter, the last thing I want is any sort of breeze traveling up there. That being said, most men probably look better in a kilt than in shorts anyways, so during the summer months, it looks like pantless might be the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phalanx300 View Post
    And it depends on your location I gues, many people around the mediteranian opted for.. dresses. While men in colder areas went for trousers, except the Highlanders, they were crazy(in a good way).
    IIRC they wore things similar to breeches underneath as well (so they were only slightly mad).
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    Quote Originally Posted by miotas View Post
    why is wearing a hat when it's hot weird?
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    I believe it is not, but in my country among young people yes. Baseball caps or bucket caps (I don't know if it is considered being a hat) are more common. Man wearing a hat is a rare sight in the streets.



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    i think itd be easier to run in pants than in tunics. plus, tunics would rip easier because of the ease in which an object can catch it and rip it

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    Go walk through a field or forest in a dress and then tell me how much pants suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lobf View Post
    Go walk through a field or forest in a dress and then tell me how much pants suck.
    Do it often do you?

    I have changed my opinion on matter, pants have been outlawed in this country, and there hasn't been a single complaint from the populace. Clearly pants are unnecessary.
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    Sure trousers may be less practical than tunicae, but should we also quit EB forever and begin playing with pine-cones? Trousers are the height of civilization! Whenever I put mine on, I think about the proud tradition of pushing through the wilderness, driving the savages in front of them like a farmer's shovel does with dung. Care must be taken in this age of globalisation, for once man has dorned the trouser, there will be nothing to stop him.
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