Capo di Tutti Capi III [Concluded]

[pevergreen]

Careful pever, role reveals are explicitly forbidden in the rules for the dead.

oopsie, edited out, thanks

Reenk, we will meet again...in number...four *dies*

[TinCow]

Select: Reenk Roink

His write-ups are entertaining and being Director doesn't make him immune to being lynched if he turns out scummy.

vote: woad&fangs

The thing that concerns me the most about pever's death is the fact that several people just got bumped up one notch towards a promotion towards wiseguy or Made. We're still so early in the game that I doubt people would refuse such a promotion. Thus, all those who got credit for the successful kill are highly probable future mafiosos. woad&fangs is the current vote leader from that group, so my vote goes to bump him up further.

If evidence comes out that points to an actual mafioso instead of just a potential, I will change my vote. For now though we seem to have a simple choice between about a dozen people who want to go mafioso. In that situation, those with kills to their name should be given priority.

[slashandburn]

Select: Reenk Roink Don't change what's working.

[Sigurd]

The thing that concerns me the most about pever's death is the fact that several people just got bumped up one notch towards a promotion towards wiseguy or Made. We're still so early in the game that I doubt people would refuse such a promotion. Thus, all those who got credit for the successful kill are highly probable future mafiosos. woad&fangs is the current vote leader from that group, so my vote goes to bump him up further.

If evidence comes out that points to an actual mafioso instead of just a potential, I will change my vote. For now though we seem to have a simple choice between about a dozen people who want to go mafioso. In that situation, those with kills to their name should be given priority.

Fair assessment.
Those who has been revealed as wanting to become mafia (Sasaki, Jolt) might not have been able to kill yet.

But we have the pevergreen murder and the list of the perpetrators. Who among them was credited for the kill? Six of them total.

vote: woad&fangs

Is GH running for office?

Select : GH

[Joooray]

Well I gotta a admit I'm entirely in the dark over here and have little idea of what is going on. So I find it hard to decide upon someone to lynch and want to think about it a bit more.

Anyway, Reenk is making an interesting case and I see little harm in selecting him as a director again, so
Select:Reenk

[pevergreen]

Lynch Sasaki. It always works well.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tally:

Sasaki: 4 (GH, gibsonsg, slashandburn, Chaotix)
woad&fangs: 4 (Shinseikhaan, scottishranger, Tincow, Sigurd)
Shlin28: 2 (Andres, Crazed Rabbit)
Ironside: 1 (White_Eyes)
Andres: 1 (Sasaki)



Director Selections

Reenk: 10 (Crazed Rabbit, Shinsei, Chaotix, Scottish, ricera, DJG, WhiteEyes, reenk Roink, Tincow, slashandburn)
TinCow: 1 (Joe Monks)
GH: 1 (Jooray)

[Joe Monks]

Unvote

seems iv voted to lynch a dead guy.

Tally:

Sasaki: 4 (GH, gibsonsg, slashandburn, Chaotix)
woad&fangs: 3 (Shinseikhaan, scottishranger, Tincow)
Shlin28: 2 (Andres, Crazed Rabbit)
Ironside: 1 (White_Eyes)
Andres: 1 (Sasaki)


Out of those who are the most supicious - likely to be mafia right now?

[Louis VI the Fat]

The_stranger gets killed. He has french in it and references to Belgians we say. It almost seems as someone is trying to point towards me or Andres.

If Louis was playing I'd be thinking of him. But that seems not to be the case.

Louis would not have mis-spelled 'L'Etranger'. It needed an accent aigu: 'L'Étranger'.

FOS: Moros and Andres for not noticing the imperfect French in the write-ups. (Pretending not to notice it?)
Either they are guilty, or they insult the language of Molière by not having aquired a stellar command of it at school. Both is extremely scummy. Either way, Flemish insubordinance, whether to the town or to French, must never remain unpunished.


[needless thread clutter]
('Stranger' and 'Étranger' are what linguists call 'false friends'. That is, they appear to have similar meanings based on akin morphology or etymology, whereas in fact they are not. The words have slightly different meanings. So a Frenchman would not have made the translation.
It is not the product of Babelfish either. However rubbish at translating phrases, online translators do not make spelling mistakes.
Also, one would only use the word if one has a prior awareness of the existence of a similar word in French to English stranger. The write-up is the work of a person who knew the word 'Étranger' without consulting a dictionary or online translator.

All of which means we are looking for a native English speaker, with a firm but imperfect command of French. I'd wager anything that it is the product of Seamus.)
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[pevergreen]

Didn't GH select himself?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: CountArach

Strong hunch.

[Beefy187]

Next time we do a protection group, we should start talking about it before the night commences

I'll wait for more development before I vote.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Vote: CountArach

Strong hunch.

Could you give us some reasons for your hunch, or is this just some gut reasoning?

CR

[Askthepizzaguy]

Reasons for voting for CountArach?

Well, he's a Count. That's obviously scummy.

[El Diablo]

Vote Sasaki Wanting to be mafia is never ever a good thing.

Select RR Simple humour added to the game.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Again, if someone wants me to vote for someone, just PM me with a reason why. I am not going to cave into this "HEY YOU SAID SOMETHING ODD 5 PAGES BACK AND THAT'S HOW I KNOW YOU SHOULD BE LYNCHED!" stuff.

[Splitpersonality]

Vote: Sasaki

Select: ReenkRoink

Because I love bandwaggons

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Select: Reenk Roink for the stellar job he's doing.

Vote: Jolt

I've not been able to follow the Pever scandal, and there are enough votes surrounding Woad & Fangs and Shlin for the moment. Basically I'm still not satisfied with his explanation of his actions from yesterday regarding FactionHeir's revelations, and I don't want to have to wait three days for peoples interests to shift back to these events. Given that I was attacked last night it is possible that someone wasn't happy with me, who are the only people I've singled out, Yaropolk (townie) and Jolt...

Weak reasoning, but better than another runaway bandwagon...

[Beskar]

Sasaki and Count Anarch are both good targets, that is why I obviously voted for them last round. It wasn't random.

vote: Sasaki because your threats to silence me won't work now.

[Jolt]

Fair assessment.
Those who has been revealed as wanting to become mafia (Sasaki, Jolt) might not have been able to kill yet.

Taking into account that Reenk approached me on behalf of TheStranger asking if I wanted to participate in a vig group, offer which I rejected for not knowing whether TheStranger was Mafia or not, renders your "reveal" as me wanting to become Mafia quite the fail.

[Beefy187]

Again, if someone wants me to vote for someone, just PM me with a reason why. I am not going to cave into this "HEY YOU SAID SOMETHING ODD 5 PAGES BACK AND THAT'S HOW I KNOW YOU SHOULD BE LYNCHED!" stuff.

This may get you lynched

[Jolt]

Select: Reenk Roink for the stellar job he's doing.

Vote: Jolt

I've not been able to follow the Pever scandal, and there are enough votes surrounding Woad & Fangs and Shlin for the moment. Basically I'm still not satisfied with his explanation of his actions from yesterday regarding FactionHeir's revelations, and I don't want to have to wait three days for peoples interests to shift back to these events. Given that I was attacked last night it is possible that someone wasn't happy with me, who are the only people I've singled out, Yaropolk (townie) and Jolt...

Weak reasoning, but better than another runaway bandwagon...

That's odd, I didn't even realize you had spoken about me until now. But that's always a good way of getting my attention. Besides such weak reasoning to try to start a bandwagon on me is always a sign of something scummy.

Vote: Gaius Scribonius Curio

[Askthepizzaguy]

Did anyone get their night results back yet?

I'd strongly advise not creating a runaway bandwagon until we get some results back.

[Splitpersonality]

I haven't gotten anything back, I know my orders went through because it was in the writeup, despite one of the people working with me dying the same night...


This may give us insight into the orders in which orders are carried out...

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

I'd assume nobody has results back yet, Seamus indicated that they'd be late...

[Diana Abnoba]

I agree

But we can

Select: Reenk Roink at least for now. I liked the unusual way he kills the lynched victims.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'll follow up by saying I know how tempting a target Sasaki is, but we are voting for him for what? Trying to form a vigilante group? We already have names of members who were in a group, and succeeded in killing someone, thus putting them further down the wiseguy/made path than Sasaki already is. So if you were going to lynch a two-bit player, those would be where you would start.

Secondly, maybe we could lynch someone more important than a wannabe. Pehaps one of the dingoes that ate our baby. We might have a decent lead on one of those as soon as people get their results back.

Hold off on big bandwagon. Plenty of time left in the round. Last round was good, let's follow up on that.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

That's odd, I didn't even realize you had spoken about me until now. But that's always a good way of getting my attention. Besides such weak reasoning to try to start a bandwagon on me is always a sign of something scummy.

Vote: Gaius Scribonius Curio

In response to this, a more complete summary of my train of thought. FactionHeir was accused by ATPG and his group of being Mafia, based on a weak claim that the person he replaced (Imperator Invictus) revealed his role prior to the beginning of the game. Personally I think that it was patently obvious that Seamus would rejig the roles in order to mask this, but...

In response, Factionheir claimed that he had been contacted by Yaropolk and Jolt who believed that he was mafia. Yaropolk claimed to want to switch sides, and Jolt claimed to have information for him on a pro-town role to be taken out. Yaropolk is now dead.

It was only after this accusation that Jolt attempted to get Factionheir lynched, claiming that he was 'fishing for information'. While this is a plausible idea, ATPG rightly pointed out that he had plenty of oppurtunity to accuse him prior to Factionheir accusing him. The bandwagon was already rolling and Jolt could have produced said damning evidence before Factionheir accused him. Perhaps he didn't because he was mafia or mafia-affiliated and wanted to see if FactionHeir would take him up on his nefarious offer.

Add to this what I said in thread 15 minutes ago. Its hardly damning but it is a valid case. Personally I don't think that admitting a case is full of holes is a good way to start a bandwagon. My intention is merely to draw attention to the fact that we have no satisfactory answers from you, Jolt, and to keep your slip up in memory while we go and chase other 'targets', who may or may not be more deserving of our attention.

[a completely inoffensive name]

This may get you lynched

Only if a group manipulates everyone to lynch someone not likely to fall for any sensationalist disinformation the group will try to implement to further their own goals. The best tactic for disabling a group from mobilizing against a threat is by taking out the rational, calm and thinking ones first so the bandwaggoning others can be easily disrupted and then taken down one by one. If wanting order and rational thinking gets me lynched then the town has already lost and I will lose respect for many of the people here who I think are smart people.

[Beefy187]

Only if a group manipulates everyone to lynch someone not likely to fall for any sensationalist disinformation the group will try to implement to further their own goals. The best tactic for disabling a group from mobilizing against a threat is by taking out the rational, calm and thinking ones first so the bandwaggoning others can be easily disrupted and then taken down one by one. If wanting order and rational thinking gets me lynched then the town has already lost and I will lose respect for many of the people here who I think are smart people.

It may get you lynched, because by asking someone else to tell you who to lynch, you are forfeiting to think your self. This is bad, because being neutral in this game makes you look scummy and being a epic bandwagoner will make you look scummy as well. Also because the only person you should trust is your self at this stage (Unless your a detective)