What faction are you currently playing?

**fleaza** · 08-15-2009, 08:43

a faction without horses are a waste of time IMO. thats why i never play koinon hellenon and the romani campaign nor the barbarians.

**bobbin** · 08-15-2009, 08:57

Originally Posted by fleaza

a faction without horses are a waste of time IMO. thats why i never play koinon hellenon and the romani campaign nor the barbarians.

Eh? KH have a good cavaly arm, Hippeis Xystophoroi are excellent chargers and have a massive recruitment area, you also get Loncophoroi and Prodromoi which are decent cavaly.

Admittedly the romans leave a lot to be desired, they have the equites extrodinarii but thats it in terms of useful cav and they loose it come the marians.

The "barbarians" have some of the best cav in the west, especially the lusotanna with their semi cataphract cavalry the Lanceri.

Obviously these don't match up to Grivpanvar but there still a war winning force.

**athanaric** · 08-15-2009, 12:32

Originally Posted by fleaza

a faction without horses are a waste of time IMO. thats why i never play koinon hellenon and the romani campaign nor the barbarians.

Just wait till you meet Ktistai on the battlefield...

**Moosemanmoo** · 08-15-2009, 15:02

Makedonia, this is the first campaign I seek to finish

Ptolemaoi seem rather unpopular, any particular reason for this?

**Andronikos** · 08-15-2009, 15:47

Originally Posted by Moosemanmoo

Ptolemaoi seem rather unpopular, any particular reason for this?

Many people dislike the fact that their kings used to mary their own sisters. Morover, they start as large empire, people generally prefer factions that start small, they earn a lot of money and you have to fight endless wars with AS.

**Hax** · 08-15-2009, 15:57

Morover, they start as large empire, people generally prefer factions that start small,

Doesn't explain why AS has the third place shared with Makedonia.

I like to play the Ptolemaioi, though. I might try Romani again soon.

**Brave Brave Sir Robin** · 08-15-2009, 19:18

Originally Posted by Hax

Doesn't explain why AS has the third place shared with Makedonia.

I like to play the Ptolemaioi, though. I might try Romani again soon.

I for one, have little desire to play as Ptolemaioi for several reasons:
1. They start off making lots of cash unlike AS.
2. They only have one enemy early on in the AS and the Seleucids are decidedly weaker in infrastructure and have more enemies picking them apart.
3. They seem to become the Yellow Death in every campaign forcing people to fight them in endless wars and thus being familiar with their unit roster.
4. People are still bitter about their representation in Vanilla along with the fact they also turned into a Yellow Death in that game as well.
5. They are like the AS without the varied regionals.

I for one harbor a grudge towards them every game I play unless I am Pahlava, Baktria, Pontos, or Hai. Otherwise I try to help the AS towards victory any way I can even if it is sacking Alexandria as the Aedui.

**fleaza** · 08-17-2009, 07:14

Originally Posted by Moosemanmoo

Makedonia, this is the first campaign I seek to finish

Ptolemaoi seem rather unpopular, any particular reason for this?

hahahaha, those sister lovers should be crucified for stealing the corpse of alexander the great.

the egyptians werent a warrior nation. they were born to farm, watch the wheats grow and sell their produce. they were never meant for conquests and great deeds.

**Andronikos** · 08-17-2009, 10:35

Originally Posted by fleaza

the egyptians werent a warrior nation. they were born to farm, watch the wheats grow and sell their produce. they were never meant for conquests and great deeds.

think twice

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Actually in the Ptolemaic kingdom Makedonians, Greeks and Galatians were used for war. It was only during reign of Ptolemy IV when a huge Seleucid army was approaching and there weren't enough soldiers that Egyptians were trained. And when these troops decided the Battle of Raphia and Egyptians realised that they are strong and the king is weak, years of revolts started.

**fleaza** · 08-18-2009, 08:07

Originally Posted by Andronikos

think twice

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Actually in the Ptolemaic kingdom Makedonians, Greeks and Galatians were used for war. It was only during reign of Ptolemy IV when a huge Seleucid army was approaching and there weren't enough soldiers that Egyptians were trained. And when these troops decided the Battle of Raphia and Egyptians realised that they are strong and the king is weak, years of revolts started.

yet the weak king of the ptolemaic kingdom managed to hold his empire until the roman civil war took egypt from them. the ptolemies never lost their kingdom althgouh it was usually in a weak state and an invasion from the seleucid empire, if not stopped by the romans, wouldve ended the ptolemaic dynasty( or probably would have).

the reason the egyptians never made big expansions even though they were extremely rich was because "they were a people more concerned with burying their dead, farming and worshipping the gods than blood and glory. when the pharaoh raised an army he would find them reluctant to fight, espcially in the monsoon season when they would normally be farming green fields in their land." - paul something, cant remember last name.

the egyptians also believed that if you werent buried properly with all the rituals then your soul would wonder forever in boredomland. if they died in some foreign country they would not get proper burial because the enemy isnt going to spend their money to bury their enemy so the egyptians hated fighting abroad.