Well, after about 3 months of toiling over this project, im nearing the completion. Overall this project has probably cost me about $100 in wire $50 in tools and another $15 in leather. Its been fun and a great learning experience. Its definitely helped me pass by the AI turn during EB.
Anyways, ill post more pictures when im completely done as I plan to add leather padding to the shoulders for comfort, also I plan to add another set of chain to wrap around my shoulders.
Bah, my hair is too short to look like a celt, i tried to make my brother take the picture (hes got skater hair) but he refused.
And some pictorial evidence from 145 BCE, present day Sinai, back then it belonged to the Ptolemaic Kingdom.
some chainmail armor, or in greek "Alysidotos thorax" IIRC, aka "chain armor" found in Macedonia.
and where would you purchase this? Oh and does anyone know a good informative website or book for celtic mail? I find it hard to find anything worth reading, as most of it just has a paragraph about it and then talks about the Romans.
and where would you purchase this? Oh and does anyone know a good informative website or book for celtic mail? I find it hard to find anything worth reading, as most of it just has a paragraph about it and then talks about the Romans.
You are right, there are quite a lot about Celts but not much on the mail they wore. Not to fear, heres a picture I have of mail from a votive deposit at Tiefenau (where, reportedly, around 100 two-handed swords were found)...
...the Ciumesti chainmail was apparently folded, rolled, and adorned with rosettes of bronze. I do not have a clear picture of this chainmail up close on my HD, so here it is in its, uh, crumpled glory...
...other depictions of Celtic mail can be found of the Pergamon Arch...
...the Vacheres statue. This could show a Gallic noble or a Gallic auxila...
...this is a Gaul in what could be chainmail from Civita Alba...
...and the Kirkburn mail shirt, a reconstruction.
I hope this helps you see the possible styles, varieties, etc... that existed here and there in Celtica
I have a suit of mail myself, but I have not completed my Gallic warrior kit just yet. I promise I will post pics when I am done, though it will not be as good as Vasiliyi's chainmail progression pics. Great job, Vasiliyi, and I am envious that you have time to make your own suit from the beginning!
No kidding, you do look quite very handsome, much better than in your other photo.
Haha thanks for the compliment, I guess.
Originally Posted by Power2the1
You are right, there are quite a lot about Celts but not much on the mail they wore. Not to fear, heres a picture I have of mail from a votive deposit at Tiefenau
(where, reportedly, around 100 two-handed swords were found)...
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
...the Ciumesti chainmail was apparently folded, rolled, and adorned with rosettes of bronze. I do not have a clear picture of this chainmail up close on my HD, so here it is in its, uh, crumpled glory...
...other depictions of Celtic mail can be found of the Pergamon Arch...
...the Vacheres statue. This could show a Gallic noble or a Gallic auxila...
...this is a Gaul in what could be chainmail from Civita Alba...
...and the Kirkburn mail shirt, a reconstruction.
I hope this helps you see the possible styles, varieties, etc... that existed here and there in Celtica
I have a suit of mail myself, but I have not completed my Gallic warrior kit just yet. I promise I will post pics when I am done, though it will not be as good as Vasiliyi's chainmail progression pics. Great job, Vasiliyi, and I am envious that you have time to make your own suit from the beginning!
Excellent. Im looking forward to seeing your work of art. what kind of metal are you using? What size? How are you connecting your rings, are they riveted or butted?
Last edited by Ludens; 08-21-2009 at 20:06.
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I ordered my suit butted, ID about 1/4, 16 gauge steel, and zinc coated so as to prevent rust for an extra long time. The zinc coating does make the armor a bit shinier than I thought so I plan to darken it a little and see how that work, and if not, I will remove the zinc myself to give it a raw steel look. I also want to remove the most or all of the sleeves (the sleeves come down the wrist so its unhistorical from what we know), and use that extra mail from the sleeves as shoulder protection/doubler assuming the sleeves provide enough mail to make the doubler.
I will have to order the leather to pad/border the edge areas of the mail, and I plan to weld the rings on the shoulder and armpit areas as the shoulder area supports a lot of the mail's weight and the armpit areas because I have read that butted mail likes to come apart there more than other places. However, its true that to help take weight off the shoulder area you should wear a good belt. Next will come the plaid linen pants, plaid wool or linen shirt, and plain off white linen undershirt when I get around to ordering the fabric. I've chosen an Agen-Port helmet to wear. My kit will certainly be used for fighting, but my group is with Dagorhir so it will not be real metal weapons taking swings at my mail lol (besides, I do not want to extensively damage my gear, it can be expen$ive repairing everything!).
and where would you purchase this? Oh and does anyone know a good informative website or book for celtic mail? I find it hard to find anything worth reading, as most of it just has a paragraph about it and then talks about the Romans.
This is the book you're looking for:
Leif Hansen, Die Panzerung der Kelten: eine diachrone und interkulturelle Untersuchung eisenzeitlicher Rüstungen (Keil: L. Hansen, 2003)
Well, little progress has happened since the last time ive posted. I managed to finish the sleeves, and now im working on the shoulder padding. I doubt ill finish it before saturday though, when I plan to go to a local Renaissance festival.
(note that i am missing a helmet, shield and spear)
I looked through www.europabarbarorum.com and I found unit of Arjos who was wearing a red shirt, and I copied him, and of course, im going to be wearing pajama pants, because that is what the Celts wore.
Anyways, thanks to all who commented, and I have to tell you, if you do make your own Mail, you wont regret it.
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Originally Posted by keravnos
(note that i am missing a helmet, shield and spear)
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