Paradox announcement: Victoria 2 and New EU3 expansion!!

**Monk** · 08-21-2009, 21:53

Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus

Of course, for EUIII to be really complete, we'll have to wait for Magna Mundi to be adapted to the new expansion...

Seconded. In particular playing as a member of the Holy Roman Empire in MM is all kinds of fun. I'm convined though that the Byzantines are impossible.

**ShadesWolf** · 08-21-2009, 22:54

Oh yes
Oh yes
Oh yes

Victoria 2

Yes
Yes
Yes

**Cecil XIX** · 08-22-2009, 00:36

Originally Posted by Monk

Seconded. In particular playing as a member of the Holy Roman Empire in MM is all kinds of fun. I'm convined though that the Byzantines are impossible.

Thirded. Although apparently resurrecting Byzantium will be even harder in MMP2.

I suppose I'll give V2 a try, Victoria was actually my first PI game but the one I've had the least fun with. Definitely the harshest learning curve.

Now if only they announced CK2, or a dark ages game.

**Monk** · 08-22-2009, 08:48

Originally Posted by Cecil XIX

Thirded. Although apparently resurrecting Byzantium will be even harder in MMP2.

I suppose I'll give V2 a try, Victoria was actually my first PI game but the one I've had the least fun with. Definitely the harshest learning curve.

Now if only they announced CK2, or a dark ages game.

It's a shame too because the Byzantine MM game is probably the most enjoyable and complicated game of EUIII I've ever played. It's nearly impossible though.

The closest I ever got to a "win" was claiming the Asia minor coast, then managing to scrape together the remnants of Greece under my banner. But as I was doing so, and managing to avoid the Ottoman hammer, BAM! The framed event. Ottoman's declared war the very next year. I think i lasted until 1520, I stopped playing when Thrace fell and I was an empire in exile in Athens. Most difficult game I ever played.

And you say it will be even harder? I'm both anxious and dreading it.

As for Victoria 2? After playing V:Rev over the last few days all I can say is BRING IT ON.

**Meneldil** · 08-23-2009, 22:46

I gave up on trying to understand Vicky. Hope the next one will have a manual/tutorial, and a less retard POPs management system.

**Alexander the Pretty Good** · 08-23-2009, 23:34

Originally Posted by Meneldil

I gave up on trying to understand Vicky. Hope the next one will have a manual/tutorial, and a less retard POPs management system.

Unfortunately I had a fluke of a marvelous game (Japan from 1836, managed to get civilized through events with only one brief rebellion and then modernized at a breathtaking place to bring me to 8th place) and so I've been struggling to reproduce that success. It seems impossible (the civilization events didn't trigger again when I replayed as Japan, no luck as any of the other interesting nations). Very frustrating.

**Megas Methuselah** · 08-24-2009, 05:01

OMG VICTORIA 2!!!

Victoria and its expansion were the best games ever made. I pity the poor fools who don't fully comprehend its vast deepness. For my part, it took a good two weeks before I understood it well enough to play a campaign without a read-me. And even now, I'm still learning a new thing here and there.