Capo di Tutti Capi III [Concluded]

[Reenk Roink]

To further tell you what Lord Winter has been up to, since it doesn't matter anymore because the suspicion on him has ruined the plan he was doing...

Lord Winter was one of my workers as a wiseguy, but I never needed him for a protection and I decided against vig kills so he became kinda useless, until he suggested he try and infiltrate Mafia families. HOW DO YOU THINK I GOT THE INFORMATION ON IRONSIDE?

The guy is a freaking hero and you guys want to crucify him.

Lastly, shlin is 70% a Don and so you should lynch him next round. GG I am probably dead.

[KukriKhan]

Why? How are you so sure that Lord Winter is guilty Kukri, because it goes against my entire dealings with the guy...

Now you guys are just setting it up so that Ironside can unvote and bring his buddies to save him. I feel like not even bothering if this is the townie response.

Honestly, it was the unmitigated arrogance of:

edit: I will have someone who votes for Lord Winter killed maybe, as there is a good chance to find Mafia there...

I may be a mere townie (as you apparently know), with no particular skills and deliberately left in-the-dark by the game mechanic - I can be pursuaded, explained to, convinced - but I will not be: bullied.

How am I so sure? I'm not so sure. No townie can be. But your mysterious vouching ("Trust Me"), couched in enigmatic references to info you will not/cannot share, amplified by a threat to have anyone who fails to comply with your advice killed, prompted my vote; thinking that my subsequent death may prove to incriminate you, who may have hoaxed our dear town all this time.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

To further tell you what Lord Winter has been up to, since it doesn't matter anymore because the suspicion on him has ruined the plan he was doing...

Lord Winter was one of my workers as a wiseguy, but I never needed him for a protection and I decided against vig kills so he became kinda useless, until he suggested he try and infiltrate Mafia families. HOW DO YOU THINK I GOT THE INFORMATION ON IRONSIDE?

The guy is a freaking hero and you guys want to crucify him.

Lastly, shlin is 70% a Don and so you should lynch him next round. GG I am probably dead.

Interesting info...

Okay, lord winter is off the hook for now.

[a completely inoffensive name]

To further tell you what Lord Winter has been up to, since it doesn't matter anymore because the suspicion on him has ruined the plan he was doing...

Lord Winter was one of my workers as a wiseguy, but I never needed him for a protection and I decided against vig kills so he became kinda useless, until he suggested he try and infiltrate Mafia families. HOW DO YOU THINK I GOT THE INFORMATION ON IRONSIDE?

The guy is a freaking hero and you guys want to crucify him.

Lastly, shlin is 70% a Don and so you should lynch him next round. GG I am probably dead.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!

[Reenk Roink]

Honestly, it was the unmitigated arrogance of:

I may be a mere townie (as you apparently know), with no particular skills and deliberately left in-the-dark by the game mechanic - I can be pursuaded, explained to, convinced - but I will not be: bullied.

How am I so sure? I'm not so sure. No townie can be. But your mysterious vouching ("Trust Me"), couched in enigmatic references to info you will not/cannot share, amplified by a threat to have anyone who fails to comply with your advice killed, prompted my vote; thinking that my subsequent death may prove to incriminate you, who may have hoaxed our dear town all this time.

How does the threat to kill from a group of people that are doing a scummy action make one scummy?

Think about it reasonably Kukri. You have a confessed Mafia, and yet there is a build up for a tie, when that Mafia himself has self voted (meaning the possibility for a huge swing). Given that Mafia have friends in this game, we could easily have had a situation where the Mafia would get free and the one who actually was responsible for flushing him out would take the bullet.

Now then, is it not reasonable to assume that the late voters for Lord Winter were doing so on behest of Ironside, who is a confessed killer, and so were likely in cahoots with him?

Add to the fact that despite me pointing it out many times, nobody payed much heed to my stating that I indeed was vouching for Lord Winter's previous actions.

Perhaps because you weren't aware of the situational irony of Lord Winter potentially being lynched when he was the one who had smoked out Ironside, you cannot feel the frustration and desperation I had when I saw all our work go for naught.

And my subsequent moves to rectify that make me scummy. Ah well.

[gibsonsg91921]

Dang, I've been moving into college and stuff. You dudes post too much.

[pevergreen]

You dudes post too much.

Everyones view on CDTC.

Reenk...settle down my friend. MY PADAWAN.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!

Brick!!!!!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Oh and Vote:Abstain, as I see no one to vote for that is logical atm.

This struck me as suspicious...Ironside was surely a perfectly logical choice??

[Askthepizzaguy]

reminder to everyone in my groups:

If you don't forward me the night order I can't vouch for you if there's a problem. Cover your butt, forward the order. At the very least it proves that you claimed to do the action. Anyone who doesn't make that claim will be the first to experience reprisal if the group fails. If everyone makes the claim, and they all survive, that's also how we catch you lying.

Be good, do well. Forward the order.

[AggonyDuck]

Gah, this is what I get for not bothering to read all the pages.

[KukriKhan]

Think about it reasonably Kukri...

...Perhaps because you weren't aware of the situational irony of Lord Winter potentially being lynched when he was the one who had smoked out Ironside, you cannot feel the frustration and desperation I had when I saw all our work go for naught.

And my subsequent moves to rectify that make me scummy. Ah well.

You've explained it well, so if I could, I would change my vote.

And I retract my "scum" remark about you. My apologies.

[shlin28]

Lastly, shlin is 70% a Don and so you should lynch him next round. GG I am probably dead.

Again... explain, please!

Your reasons for me being a Don:

I have an innocent result
Some of my prot groups failed

In both cases, lots of others are in identical situations as me. I want a proper case if you want to accuse me.

[TinCow]

I want a proper case if you want to accuse me.

The fact remains that either you or Beefy is scum. You, Beefy, and Andres all claim to have submitted proper orders to protect pevergreen. Since pevergreen died, one of you is lying. Andres was investigated as innocent and later participated in a successful vigilante kill. Dons cannot do that, so Andres is therefore a townie and thus cleared of suspicion. That leaves you and Beefy, which results in 50% odds that you are a Don. Since Reenk apparently infiltrated a mafia family with Lord Winter, it doesn't take a lot of imagination to figure out where his extra 20% comes from.

[Andres]

Gah, this is what I get for not bothering to read all the pages.

So, you noticed that you weren't about to get lynched and thus decided that it isn't worth it to reply to the questions?

[Splitpersonality]

This struck me as suspicious...Ironside was surely a perfectly logical choice??

I had not caught up on everything at that time, I simply wanted to put a vote down while I caught up.

[Sigurd]

Andres was investigated as innocent and later participated in a successful vigilante kill. Dons cannot do that, so Andres is therefore a townie and thus cleared of suspicion.

That is not true. My Don Corleone PM from Capo II reads:

3. You may participate in Townie Vigilante teams or in Protection teams, however: a) Your Luca cannot protect you during a night you’re so involved, and b) while you function normally as a vigilante (1 of 4 needed) you cannot provide any protection value so any protection team where you are not an “extra” WILL fail.

If you have information to the contrary, you must have read a Capo III Don PM.

edit: Andres will only be redeemed if he is investigated again and is found guilty. A Don will be listed as innocent even if he participates in Vig. killings.

[TinCow]

Interesting, thanks for the information Sigurd.

[Andres]

That is not true. My Don Corleone PM from Capo II reads:

If you have information to the contrary, you must have read a Capo III Don PM.

edit: Andres will only be redeemed if he is investigated again and is found guilty. A Don will be listed as innocent even if he participates in Vig. killings.

Fine by me.

What have you been up to at night time during the course of the game, Sigurd?

[Sigurd]

What have you been up to at night time during the course of the game, Sigurd?

That my friend is on a need to know basis. And since you don't need to know ...

[Congrats on another 2,000-poster, Seamus! - GH]

[Andres]

That my friend is on a need to know basis. And since you don't need to know ...

I am on a need to know basis.

I'm a townie and my life is threatened by mafiosi. If you're scum, then me and my fellow townies need to get rid of you. So, tell us, what have you been up to?

Being evasive is not good.

[Moros]

Andres is right Sigurd.

Also Ducky, time to talk?

[Sigurd]

I am on a need to know basis.

I'm a townie and my life is threatened by mafiosi. If you're scum, then me and my fellow townies need to get rid of you. So, tell us, what have you been up to?

Being evasive is not good.

Even Mafiosi are threathened by Mafiosi. Your reason is fallacious. Only a second investigation can clear you Andres. Right now - there are no public second investigation with a guilty result and hence you could very well be a Don rolefishing power roles. I am not going to reveal anything other than:

Askthepizzaguy can vouch for me.

[Andres]

Even Mafiosi are threathened by Mafiosi. Your reason is fallacious. Only a second investigation can clear you Andres. Right now - there are no public second investigation with a guilty result and hence you could very well be a Don rolefishing power roles. I am not going to reveal anything other than:

Askthepizzaguy can vouch for me.

Ha!

The insinuation of me being anything else than a townie is complete and utter nonsense.

My reason is not fallacious: we need to know what everybody has been up to. You're here now, so please, talk.

Stop evading the question and acting paranoid. It only makes you suspicious.

[Sigurd]

Ha!

The insinuation of me being anything else than a townie is complete and utter nonsense.

My reason is not fallacious: we need to know what everybody has been up to. You're here now, so please, talk.

Stop evading the question and acting paranoid. It only makes you suspicious.

I have nothing more to say.
You can threathen me with night attack or lynch, I am not going to spill the beans in public. If you want more, there is a private fora for this.

[Andres]

I have nothing more to say.
You can threathen me with night attack or lynch, I am not going to spill the beans in public. If you want more, there is a private fora for this.

Where?

Care to pm me the link?

[Sigurd]

Where?

Care to pm me the link?

Sure ... LINK

[GeneralHankerchief]

Now now gentlemen, no need to be catty. We'll just set you both up for the lynch.

[johnhughthom]

Askthepizzaguy can vouch for me.

I can vouch for you, you're an unaffiliated wiseguy. Working closely with pizza, interesting...

[Beskar]

I can vouch for Sigurd. He is my partner... in bed.

Anyway, Sigurd is clearer than a whistle. However, Andres is suspicious.