Capo di Tutti Capi III [Concluded]

[Sigurd]

I was told a while ago that every person who has shown up as a mafioso had a "loyal" result on a communism investigation. I have not been informed otherwise, and therefore think Andres' "questionable" result means he is a townie who is possibly recruitable by the communists, along with numerous others. As the communists seem to have been neutered as a threat very early on, that doesn't particularly concern me.

The loyal vs. questionable results are results from a particular agency. Andres' questionable results comes from a different agency. I could be totally wrong, but in my book Andres needs another detective result pronouncing him "guilty". If that comes through "the network", I will happily say "I am sorry" to Andres.

[Andres]

Blahblahblah, I'm still fabricating a believable story about my night activities. Blahblahblah. Avoid, evade, circumvent questions about my night activities. Blahblahblah. I hate it when those bloodhounds are after me. Need more time to fabricate story. Blahblahblah.

The "questionable" or "loyal" thingy is only important for the agencies themselves imo, not for town who needs to take out scum. I don't care if a particular player is loyal or questionable, I only care about him being mafia or not.

Please, Sigurd, what have you been up to during the nights?

[KukriKhan]

I may be afk for the next deadline, so I'm lodging my vote now, on admittedly flimsy evidence (lack of adequate response to Andres' interrogation):

vote: Sigurd , as a prod
select: ATPG

[Lord Winter]

Vote: Andres
Select: Slash and Burn

Lynch them both and let god sort them out.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Sorry gentlemen, I was taking a nap.

I'm not thrilled with either Andres or Sigurd as a selection right now. I can vouch for Sigurd, just as he said. When I woke up and saw you both accusing each other I wasn't happy.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Blahh I am dead , ahh well.

[Myrddraal]

I personally don't believe that Andres is a Don.

However if there is real concern about his role (to the level where he might seriously be lynched) I would suggest investigating him instead. That is the simple way to confirm 100% that he is a townie.


Sigurd, though your persistence in your pushing of Andres is admirable mafia hunting your refusal to answer basic questions about yourself smells like a fishmongers. FOS

[Andres]

Ok, I got confirmation in private and a post from ATPG in public.

Unvote : Sigurd; Vote : Beefy187

And AggonyDuck needs to talk.

[Andres]

What have Disgruntledgoat and Double A been up to so far?

[shlin28]

Ok, I got confirmation in private and a post from ATPG in public.

Unvote : Sigurd; Vote : Beefy187

And AggonyDuck needs to talk.

AggonyDuck is dead... is there any point to ask him to talk now?

[Andres]

Hi, I'm Andres and I'm suffering from amnesia.

FoS : AggonyDuck

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

And I'm only 31...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Double A and DisgruntledGoat have been protecting.

Finally, I have been patient and understanding towards Shinseikhaan the entire game, even when he accused me. Since he was attacked at one point, I even tried to organize a protection ring around him to possibly gain us a doctor. When he was accused I pointed out that I had no direct evidence he was scum, and I have been reluctant to push the issue. However, Shinseikhaan has a guilty result and I have far too many people suggesting he is mafia for me to ignore him any longer. The sources on Khaan have been spot on for other people so far this game.

Vote: Shinseikhaan

[TinCow]

Shinseikhaan has a guilty result

That's a new one I haven't heard before. Unless I see some verification of a vigilante kill...

Vote: Shinseikhaan

[Moros]

Well I guess I'll follow ATPG... SinceI don't have real suspects of me own.
vote: Shinseikhaan
Select: Slash&burn
(to balance things out)

[woad&fangs]

Vote: Shinseikhaan
I've been having bad vibes about him and that guilty result was the evidence needed to convince me.

[ricera10]

Vote: Shinseikhaan

I don't see anyone else as a better choice at the moment. It's really thinning out in this game, isn't it?

Select: abstain; I don't really have an opinion on the director selection.

[seireikhaan]

My guilty result is from Night one. I killed Quintus on a vigilante kill. I even offered him my spot in another game to compensate for his random.org'd demise in this one. And, I will admit, I have made other vigilante attempts, but all others have failed. Last night, I was in a protection group, if those others wish to vouch for me, I would appreciate it.

[TinCow]

My guilty result is from Night one. I killed Quintus on a vigelante kill. I even offered him my spot in another game to compensate for his random.org'd demise in this one. And, I will admit, I have made other vigelante attempts, but all others have failed. Last night, I was in a protection group, if those others wish to vouch for me, I would appreciate it.

Yes, you were in my protection group last night, but our target was not attacked so that proves nothing. Please list all your failed vigilante attempts.

[Myrddraal]

Hmm. Whilst I don't doubt that Shinseikhaan is a good lynch candidate, this easy choice should not be an excuse for a lack of analysis of other player's actions & posting styles.

I think it should be mandatory for all those voting for the top lynch candidate to name their second choice for lynch and explain why.

There's always the double lynch... *dangles carrot*

[Andres]

My guilty result is from Night one. I killed Quintus on a vigilante kill. I even offered him my spot in another game to compensate for his random.org'd demise in this one. And, I will admit, I have made other vigilante attempts, but all others have failed. Last night, I was in a protection group, if those others wish to vouch for me, I would appreciate it.

Did you start as a Wiseguy or as townie?

An honest answer please. You don't want to be caught in a lie right now, with all those votes piled up on you

A random round 1 vig kill? Who else was involved? What was the reason? First step on your way to your own mafia family?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I also recommend a double lynch if we have a secondary candidate. Preferably someone with a criminal result, as it could be a made not killing, remaining Luca, or wiseguy.


edit: facts were wrong, changed.

[seireikhaan]

N1- Quintus
N2- DJGingivitis. Irked me because he claimed "solid" info in thread and didn't divulge.
N3- DoubleA. At this point, was convinced Pizzaguy was attempting to form a mafia group, and was going after his support group.
N4- Nothing, group wasn't coordinating.
N5- Proletariat, due to what seemed a highly ambiguous alignment.

[Andres]

N1- Quintus
N2- DJGingivitis. Irked me because he claimed "solid" info in thread and didn't divulge.
N3- DoubleA. At this point, was convinced Pizzaguy was attempting to form a mafia group, and was going after his support group.
N4- Nothing, group wasn't coordinating.
N5- Proletariat, due to what seemed a highly ambiguous alignment.

Your starting role?

Who was in your groups? Especially the N1 group.

EDIT: it takes too long 'khaan. Surely, it must be easy to give us that info immediately.

[seireikhaan]

Did you start as a Wiseguy or as townie?

An honest answer please. You don't want to be caught in a lie right now, with all those votes piled up on you

A random round 1 vig kill? Who else was involved? What was the reason? First step on your way to your own mafia family?

Started as a townie.

Reason? Well, to be quite honest, you basically nailed my original reasoning. However, given the preponderance of failed attempts, as well as the town's continued success, I've decided its better to hedge my bets on the town's side.

EDIT: Group always consisted of White_eyes and Gibsonsg91921. There have been a few others that we'd attempted to get as the fourth wheel, including Dutch_guy, A completely inoffensive name, and Scottishranger.

EDIT2: Its not taking too long, you keep sneaking posts in while I'm typing mine up.

[naut]

If I may throw my innocent little hat into the ring, I don't think Shinseikhaan is the best lynch for this round. Really. Look hard, there's some pretty condemning evidence in the public of other people that has been completely glossed over.

Edit: I guess not everyone is corruptible. Either way, you're all being led by the nose by ATPG, not that is 100% a bad thing. But, think for your selves people!

[TinCow]

Hrmm... well 'khaan's claimed night actions do indeed show up in the write-ups in a manner that appears to be vigilante hits, not mafia hits. Since the N1 action also explains the guilty result, I will...

Unvote: 'khaan

Very scummy behavior, but more like a townie trying to put himself in a position to go mafia later if he wanted to. Under the circumstances, I don't consider that a priority lynch. Let's see what else we can dig up today.

[Myrddraal]

Although Khaan seems to not be mafia affiliated (vig kill description style according to TinCow) his choice of targets is very scummy:

N1- Quintus
N2- DJGingivitis. Irked me because he claimed "solid" info in thread and didn't divulge.
N3- DoubleA. At this point, was convinced Pizzaguy was attempting to form a mafia group, and was going after his support group.
N4- Nothing, group wasn't coordinating.
N5- Proletariat, due to what seemed a highly ambiguous alignment.

N2 especially strikes me. Someone claims to have solid info but doesn't divulge. You therefore try to kill him? To shut him up?

N5 also. Prole claims a strong pro town role. You find it ambiguous. Therefore kill her?

Scummy.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Data has not been updated since last round, but for lack of suspects, some players have been escaping the WOG in a very suspicious way. There is no reason why anyone with no votes or activity should still be alive.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

WOGed:
Nole4694 - WoGed with 4 no votes
Truepraetorian - WoGed with 4 no votes
Dutch_guy - WoGed with 6 no votes
Warmaster Horus - WoGed with 6 no votes.

WOGBait:

Cowhead418 - 8 no votes (alive)
Greyblades - 8 no votes (alive)
Veronica Toluso - 8 no votes (alive)

Other players:

Ichigo - 5 no votes
Joe Monks - 5 no votes
Pannonian - 5 no votes
Skooma Addict - 5 no votes

I want to know what we are going to decide on those who have done nothing and never got WOGed, and I'd like to see more participation from those with 5 no votes.

As for Khaan, my conclusion is similar to TinCow's and Myrddraal's; those choices are highly suspect and indicate a mafia-leaning bent to his strategy. He bears watching, but at least we know he's not a mafia Don. He should refrain from all further vigilante hits though. Seriously.

[naut]

Seems all my hunches have been correct so far...

If anything the following need to be pushed into the spotlight further:

ricera10
Beefy
Moros

Good luck.

[Sigurd]

I personally don't believe that Andres is a Don.

However if there is real concern about his role (to the level where he might seriously be lynched) I would suggest investigating him instead. That is the simple way to confirm 100% that he is a townie.

This is true. Let those with investigative powers clear Andres.

unvote: Andres