Less Civilized Factions

[Macilrille]

Thanks for posting. After I review Sweboz history again, I think I can give this faction a go. Seems they are strong enough to rule the world. I hope I can learn to be a good warlord/general using Sweboz soldiers, just imaging Alexander or Hannibal going to recruit and lead an army of barbarians.

No no, imagine Teutobod, Boirax, Ariovistus or Arminus "Turbator Germania"!!! Germany had plenty of competent warlords within EB timeframe.

[fleaza]

ummm, wow this argument started because i said i got the feeling they were inferior.

its simple, i dont get the feeling of grandeur and glory i get when i play with civilised factions. especially the hellenes. i just love the play as the makedonians, the seleukids and the baktrians. parthians, eastern factions and the romans are fun as well. as soon as i pick a barbarian faction i just lose interest.

[Macilrille]

Well... read Tacitus' Annals on the campaign, then read some Sagas and Saxo and you are good to go.

No barbarians are not grand in building cities and infrastructure, nor did they write books...

Barbarians' greatness is in their heroism!!

[chenkai11]

No no, imagine Teutobod, Boirax, Ariovistus or Arminus "Turbator Germania"!!! Germany had plenty of competent warlords within EB timeframe.

I don't really meant Germany don't have great warlords. What I meant was, imaging like you used to lived in big cities, like Las Vegas and you love it. Then you transfer to a farm land in Australia. Although both are nice place. Or if you used and love to goto work with a tie, but then you have to wear jeans with your new job. Or more precise example, ahh... hey Ceasar, a Gaul army just surrendered to our side, and we need all your professional Roman soldiers to reinforce the eastern front, so why not try out the new army, they are all yours... well at least they are twice the size of your original army. If you know what I mean.

Its simple, i dont get the feeling of grandeur and glory i get when i play with civilised factions. especially the hellenes. i just love the play as the makedonians, the seleukids and the baktrians. parthians, eastern factions and the romans are fun as well. as soon as i pick a barbarian faction i just lose interest.

We are on the same boat.

[Bucefalo]

I enjoy all factions, maybe a bit less the steppe factions because i don´t know much about them and i love infantry warfare but hate horse archers.

[Phalanx300]

I don't really meant Germany don't have great warlords. What I meant was, imaging like you used to lived in big cities, like Las Vegas and you love it. Then you transfer to a farm land in Australia. Although both are nice place. Or if you used and love to goto work with a tie, but then you have to wear jeans with your new job. Or more precise example, ahh... hey Ceasar, a Gaul army just surrendered to our side, and we need all your professional Roman soldiers to reinforce the eastern front, so why not try out the new army, they are all yours... well at least they are twice the size of your original army. If you know what I mean.

Actually Ceasar said that the Sweboz force he faced was the most disciplined force he had ever seen, Germanic Tribes most disciplined, and that from a great general with disciplined troops like the legionairries. I think many are underestimating the discipline "barbarians" can have. Its like the Scottish pikemen.

[Cyclops]

Actually Ceasar said that the Sweboz force he faced was the most disciplined force he had ever seen, Germanic Tribes most disciplined, and that from a great general with disciplined troops like the legionairries. I think many are underestimating the discipline "barbarians" can have. Its like the Scottish pikemen.

While I take your general point, that supposedly uncivilised folks can in fact show amazing discipline (eg Zulus disciplined formations vs British, or rather unsophisticated Spartans vs very civilised Persians) I'd take Caesar with a grain of salt. The Gallic wars is an extended self advertisment, designed to make his conquest of Gaul look as impressive as Pompey's conquests in the east. Everyone he fought was the baddest, meanest, tallest, most lime-moustached, most disciplined, most ferocious etc.

I enjoy all factions, maybe a bit less the steppe factions because i don´t know much about them and i love infantry warfare but hate horse archers.

Yes aside from the Romans (who I guess I resent because they won) and the Mako's (who I have played to death) the steppe cultures are my least played option these days.

Is there a decent survey of their culture and military history that might inspire me to try? I must say the way their bulding tree works does baffle me a little, maybe I will give it more of a shot in EB2 when it comes out...