Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
Another funny thing is when they say they don't watch Fox news.....then list other News Corp outfits they get their news from instead.Another funny thing is that the NYT or ABC or whatever medium right-wingers dont like are called 'main stream' or 'corporate' media'. For crying out loud, Fox is owned by Rupert Murdochs News Corporation and broadcast into 85 million American homes.
Its like a brit saying they wouldn't read the rubbish in the Daily Mail/Sun as they got their news from the Standard/Times
I'm sure Tribesman's last reference is hilarious if you live in the U.K. But for us yanks? Whooosh ...
Last edited by Lemur; 09-15-2009 at 22:23. Reason: Typo.
Where do yanks live?I'm sure Tribesman's last reference is hilarious if you live in the U.S. But for us yanks? Whooosh ...
That's a blog posting. I thought I acknowledge that one, but looking over the current state of my post, I guess I wasn't clear on that. Yes, they mentioned it in a blog posting- if you want to count a mention on their blog as them giving adequate coverage to the unfolding controversy, I guess you can do so.
"corporate media" is a pretty redundant term, but I don't really know of many right-wingers that use it. I mean, the corporate claim implies that there's something wrong with being a corporation and that would run counter to most right-wing ideology.Another funny thing is that the NYT or ABC or whatever medium right-wingers dont like are called 'main stream' or 'corporate' media'. For crying out loud, Fox is owned by Rupert Murdochs News Corporation and broadcast into 85 million American homes.
"Mainstream media" is a term that's still widely used, but as you point out, the lines separating what's mainstream or not are pretty blurred these days. If they've gotta call it something "traditional media" probably works better, and "state-run media"(yes, it's an inaccurate term, but it's supposed to poke fun at how closely they're allied with the administration) is also gaining popularity. My personal favorite has been the "drive-by media".![]()
Last edited by Xiahou; 09-15-2009 at 22:10.
"Don't believe everything you read online."
-Abraham Lincoln
Forgive my ignorance then. What I have been told is that "truthers" simply wanted an independent review which being totally honest, doesn't sound bad at all. I remember when I saw the attacks on television, I thought something was weird, since the Twin Towers were actually built with safeguards against such an attack, with the Empire State building incident as an example. Then there was talk of World Trade Centre 7 (whatever that is) getting destroyed and it was a block away.
So if they did investigate it and done a report like you just linked to in the two posts, then I see no issue, as it has been done.
Personally, if it was part of a controlled demolition done because it posed a great danger to the greater area, it wouldn't have been such a bad thing anyway.
Also, a couple of pictures around the time of 9/11 did make me think and wonder why somethings happen, such as this one:
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I posted this is the backroom thread, but here we have Jon Stewart of the Daily Show asking where the media was on the whole acorn-is-corrupt-and-supports-pimps story:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-epi...009-matt-damon
Funny bit starts at 3:15, Stewart's lines against the 'traditional media' begins at 7:45.
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Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
Five years ago, conservative America was outraged that the press dared question the government. Dissent was considered unpatriotic, treasonous, turning America over to the terrorists.
Currently, conservative America is outraged that the press does not question the government enough. Not dissenting is considered unpatriotic, treasonous, turning America over to a fascist-communist dictatorship.
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Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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