Select: Sigurd
Vote: Crazed Rabbit
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Select: Sigurd
Vote: Crazed Rabbit
it's the **** that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come
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Dangit, why am I being lynched here, instead of Mr "Hi, I'd like to defend a mafia don!" Sasaki.
I mean, for crying out loud, we all know the guy wants to go mafia every time he has the chance. It's who he is, after all.
And yet I'm the one being lynched. I'm inclined to believe my travails are all part of some special goal Reenk has to get me as close to being killed for as many rounds as he can.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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Vote: Crazed Rabbit
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Dance, puppets, dance.
"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
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Funny, in a morbid sort of way, how ATPG ignores all my responses. Of course he has to, because he doesn't really have an answer.
Maybe one of you voting for me could answer: why am I being voted for?
And none of this 'Oh, you're suspicious' crap. I have voted for both dons that were close to being lynched. I hunted down the serial killer, and the town would have likely lynched him earlier than it did if people listened to me.
But who did they listen to? They listened to ATPG, and ATPG ignored xehh II because he sent in orders and ATPG didn't have any suspicious investigation results. And so ATPG ignored him, and would have continued to do so if he hadn't gotten some strange investigation results.
But me? I didn't do that. I searched for clues in the thread and using analysis I found the serial killer. If the town had paid attention to me, we could have saved Joe Monks.
But he's dead, because ATPG refuses to listen to anyone who disagrees with him. And that's why I'm being lynched.
ATPG has no 'evidence', and he can't even attempt to defend what he's posted.
As for his 'victories' - well yes, I could get mobsters if I indiscriminately killed whoever didn't respond to my orders. But I'd also kill innocents and detectives, like ATPG has.
I'm not saying ATPG is an anti-town role. I'm saying he's not good at playing this game and his choices for the lynches are not good.
Finally, there's a very simple reason not to vote for me; I can not be mafia. I am clearly not a don. I cannot be a made, either. That was proved several rounds again and can be proved again. Nor am I a wiseguy helping the mafia; if I really was helping the mafia all this time I'd be a made by now.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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I killed a don? Yay. Too bad I just helped the person who killed me.
You know ATPG, if you didn't snitch on me we would've run this town.
A ha ha! Rainbows and unicorns! Rainbows and unicorns!
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Looks like it to me. Until there's some explanation of this...Originally Posted by Tratorix
I feel like everyone's kind of glossing over this. Does this mean Chaotix attacked SSNeo last night?
Vote: Chaotix
Can someone explain why we're selecting Sigurd as Director?
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[SPOIL]Etc etc
I have a suggestion, oh towny-est of townies. We already cleared slashandburn and me of being these killers by virtue of our being the director. We can lynch the director, and the director cannot kill at night or vote. I suggest we use the directorship slot to paralyze a suspected mafia at night and during the day until it is determined that they are NOT one of the killers remaining. And after investigating them deeply, we lynch them promptly when it is determined that they are indeed guilty.
Oh Shinseikhaan... I have such fondness for you. I'd hate to have to lynch you blind. I nominate you to be our very first "Bound and gagged" director. In honor of your greatness, of course.
Select: Shinseikhaan
Now.. back to staying in dead land
I'll like to comment how this is a fun read though
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Thanks, I forgot about that plan. I'll go along with it, but could someone remind me what the case is against Sigurd? I'm still sorting through abou 2.5 weeks worth of emails at work and I'm having trouble focusing on other things at the moment.
Select: Sigurd
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vote: Sasaki
select: Sigurd
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Since the mafia are aware of it (big leaks in the system) the reason we are selecting Sigurd for Director is because he's an investigator.
As for Chaotix, any votes for him are a waste, because he's a communist. And when you're a disloyal communist trying to kill off loyal townies, bad things happen. Scary things. Terrible things. I can't be held responsible for it, but I do wash my hands of it.
Tally:
Lynch Vote:
Crazed Rabbit: 5 (ATPG, WE, Tratorix, SSNeo, ACIN)
Sasaki: 3 (YLC, CR, Kukri)
Chaotix: 2 (Slash, Tincow)
Abstain: 1 (Chaotix)
Director Selection:
Sigurd: 8 (ATPG, SPlit, YLC, WE, Tratorix, SSNeo, Tincow, Kukri)
Shinseikhaan: 1 (Shinseikhaan)
Twilightblade: 1 (ACIN)
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And here pops in ATPG, ignoring the fact that he's basing the lynch of me on personal reasons, rather than what's best for the town.
Before I posted the town was discussing lynching Sasaki because he had defended the don. But ATPG saw my post and ended all the discussion.
That's what you'll get if people continue to line up and do as ATPG says. It certainly won't help the town.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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Whatever you're not, why would you have a sniper watching over you?
As for you, Chaotix, what is to be done? It's not looking good. An explanation as to why you thought you'd kill me [offered sooner rather than later] would be preferable. You're welcome to contact me in private, though you'd most probably be just as well telling me out here.
it's the **** that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come
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Understood
I've stated many times before that CR has consistently been a worthy lynch due to being a wiseguy who tried to join a mafia family. Before now there were always other people who seemed to be a higher priority on the lynch, so he's been given a pass. Looks like the list of higher priority target has finally run out though. Even if CR hasn't joined a family since his previous attempt (which I find unlikely), he's still a worthwhile lynch. With the mafia so thoroughly routed, eliminating possible recruits is beneficial as it prevents a rejuvenation. CR is one of the most obvious potential recruits currently alive.
Unvote; Vote: Crazed Rabbit
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Personal reasons? No... I have no personal issue with you.Tis just a game.
I can't "end" the discussion. You know, when this game began, there were bandwagons on me for trying to get people to do protection groups. The only way to get a suspect lynched was to offer to die if I was wrong. And for a while there, I just had to sit tight and allow Reenk to masterfully help get a half dozen scums lynched. Any player here has the ability to ignore my posts and vote the way they choose. I can't "end" discussion any more than I can force people to listen to me.Before I posted the town was discussing lynching Sasaki because he had defended the don. But ATPG saw my post and ended all the discussion.
Perhaps some of the other townies here would like to respond to the charge that they are mindless zombies following me without doing any critical thinking of their own? I'd defend them, but perhaps in their own words would be more convincing to you CR.That's what you'll get if people continue to line up and do as ATPG says. It certainly won't help the town.
CR
Perhaps you might answer the question: Why is Reenk so determined to have you die, Crazed? Why is he so certain about you? What might you have said to him in private that led to this? Why do your defenders come in the form of mafiosi refusing to vote for you, and unauthorized night protections? That's an awfully big conspiracy just to take down one man, and for what? To waste one lousy round? I don't think so.
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I'm the best lynch? I'm not the one who protected a don.Understood
I've stated many times before that CR has consistently been a worthy lynch due to being a wiseguy who tried to join a mafia family. Before now there were always other people who seemed to be a higher priority on the lynch, so he's been given a pass. Looks like the list of higher priority target has finally run out though. Even if CR hasn't joined a family since his previous attempt (which I find unlikely), he's still a worthwhile lynch. With the mafia so thoroughly routed, eliminating possible recruits is beneficial as it prevents a rejuvenation. CR is one of the most obvious potential recruits currently alive.
It was proven that I wasn't mafia several rounds ago, which was several rounds after the only mafioso I knew died. It can be proven again as well.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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Oh, please. I'm guessing you still claim these PMs were fake, despite Reenk's pro-town allegiance being proven? You should be proud that you've avoided the lynch and the vig kill for this long, but your time is up my scumtastic friend.I'm the best lynch? I'm not the one who protected a don.
It was proven that I wasn't mafia several rounds ago, which was several rounds after the only mafioso I knew died. It can be proven again as well.
CR
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ATPG still has not answered any of my earlier arguments.
And yet you voted for me and led all your followers in doing so right after posted.Personal reasons? No... I have no personal issue with you.
I can't "end" the discussion.
Then who's talking about Sasaki now? Or the fact that LG is a don who somehow 'participated' in a defense. Tincow is the only one who's even said anything besides voting.
Yes, you said the same thing about beefy - and he was innocent. Going to fall on your sword, ATPG?You know, when this game began, there were bandwagons on me for trying to get people to do protection groups. The only way to get a suspect lynched was to offer to die if I was wrong.
Don't be deceitful - you know there are people who simply vote for whoever you vote.I can't "end" discussion any more than I can force people to listen to me.
Yes, that would be, but I very much doubt I'll see it.I'd defend them, but perhaps in their own words would be more convincing to you CR.
Reenk is playing us all. You know the vigilante list is correct. What vigilante would have warned me, then? Before you rightly disregarded Reenks' accusations, but now you bring them up because you don't like having anyone question you.Perhaps you might answer the question: Why is Reenk so determined to have you die, Crazed? Why is he so certain about you? What might you have said to him in private that led to this? Why do your defenders come in the form of mafiosi refusing to vote for you, and unauthorized night protections? That's an awfully big conspiracy just to take down one man, and for what? To waste one lousy round? I don't think so.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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Dedicated to my friend, Crazed Rabbit.
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This is a very weak argument, and resorting to it shows your desperation. Reenk has been proved to be a townie by Seamus' reveal and to have had no affiliations with the mafia in any manner. Reenk and ATPG have butted heads many times in this game, but they both agree that you are a worthwhile lynch. Despite all the complaints lodged against both of them (including at each other) Reenk and ATPG together have contributed a massive amount towards what is currently looking like an overwhelming townie victory. IIRC, the list of confirmed dead scum is 3 Dons, 5 Lucas, 6 Mades, a Serial Killer, and a couple communists with questionable intentions. Either Reenk, ATPG, or both, had a very strong role to play in the death or lynching of nearly every single one of those scumbags. Reenk and ATPG have both earned a lot of leeway from the town, and saying that either of them has some secret agenda at this point in the game is an argument that falls pretty flat, particularly with Reenk.
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I didn't say he had mafia affiliations. I said he was messing with us all for his own amusement. Surely you know Reenk likes to do that. Or is my PM from Reenk warning me about vigilantes fake? Which one of them would have told me?
And the serial killer would have been dead earlier if people had listened to me. But they didn't; they just lined up behind ATPG. That lack of discussion for the town is bad then and it's bad now.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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Reenk claimed your PM was a fake. As I noted earlier, back when Reenk was still alive, you claimed his PMs about you were fake. This is pretty strong evidence that one of the two of you is scum. Reenk's post-mortem showed him as a townie with no mafia afiliations. He has also been single-handedly responsible for handing several confirmed mafioso to the town on a silver platter. You are an admitted wiseguy at a minimum. You'll pardon me if, in a dispute between Reenk and yourself, I back Reenk.
As for Reenk messing with us, that's a bit silly. He went through a stupendous amount of effort to aid the town while he was still alive. It doesn't make sense that he'd try and sabotage that effort now. As is known, he's a townie. Since he's dead, Reenk can now only win if the town wins. I've seen Reenk do all kinds of crazy things, but I've never seen him sabotage his own victory.
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Well you'll see something new when the game is over then.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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It's 4 Dons now, actually. LittleGrizzly was a Don.
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Good point. We all know I'm not a don, so why is the town focusing on me when the potential for immediate victory lies within reach?
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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The fact that you're threatening me, ATPG, and sending attack groups after me every phase explains the reason why I might not be entirely supportive of you.
The attack I performed on SSNeo was one of protest; like Twilightblade I have no special powers and couldn't possibly have killed him. The fact is, I know who your in-group is, and I know that you're all planning to use me as a scapegoat and kill me, then move on to the next townie. You have almost destroyed the mafia, and now you are running out of lynch options. Soon the town will realize that you are not really working in its interests.
Unvote, Vote: ATPG
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Why would you be protected against pro-town actions if you're of no value to our enemies, CR?
it's the **** that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come
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*yawn*
So you admit that you lied about doing protections, you admit you directed an attack toward SSN without just cause, you admit that I've almost destroyed the mafia, and you admit that you're not entirely supportive of me even though I'd been protecting you every night and using my ability to make doctors appear out of thin air.
And now, instead of focusing on the prize, a town victory, you waste your vote on me. Classic pro-townie behavior.
EDIT: Just like to say, I was responding to a quote. It was not intended as credit taking. To be clear, we have almost destroyed the mafia. (hopefully)
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I didn't ask for any protection and I don't know who protected me. I'm not a don, and all the lucas are dead. So if the mafia had the ability to protect people I'd doubt they'd waste it on me.
And your vigilantes weren't 'pro-town', just like they weren't when attacking Moros or Pannonian.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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So Ichigo died by accident? And DisgruntledGoat? What about Khazaar? Scottishranger?
Granted, some of the earlier ones had mafia in them, but then, some members of those groups turned around and killed more mafia, one a very member of a previous vigilante group and a Don, causing a Don and two Lucas to die. It's getting to be pretty strange that they would do this for mafia-related reasons. It's a good cover story, I'll grant you that, and maybe they want to form their own family. But thanks a bunch for whacking scum regardless.
As for Pannonian, that's a black mark on the CIA's record, admittedly, but the fellow helping him was apparently the same rogue detective, who had sent Iskander 3.1 on vacation. So you can't even pin that one on the vigilantes. Nor Moros' death, because they weren't the ones who ended up getting him.
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