Honduras Military Kicks Out President

**Tribesman** · 09-28-2009, 23:00

It's only crazy in your personal "reality".

No its crazy because its crazy and has no bearing on reality.
Do you have a different calendar to the rest of the world perhaps, together with a completely new definition of what constitutes fact?
It certainly appears so.

**rvg** · 09-28-2009, 23:06

Originally Posted by Tribesman

No its crazy because its crazy and has no bearing on reality.
Do you have a different calendar to the rest of the world perhaps, together with a completely new definition of what constitutes fact?
It certainly appears so.

Actually, it's not crazy at all.

**Tribesman** · 09-28-2009, 23:33

Actually, it's not crazy at all.

Its complete lunacy.
The term was due to end in January, how on earth would a non-binding referendum planned for november on a possible future motion which even if passed would have no legal standing but if acted upon could be put before congress and debated and if by some miracle that got approved would then enter into a long legistative process(the last process for amendments took 3 years) and then have to go back for another referendum and be passed before being enacted.
So either you have a very strange calender where 2 months equals many years or you are talking complete rubbish
I think the complete rubbish option is the only answer, and that is reinforced by your nonsense about Chavez being a de-facto President for life. In case you have been living under a rock for a while perhaps you havn't noticed that he lost the vote that would have enabled himself to stand a chance of getting re-elected and no motion whatsoever has been submitted that would enable someone to be elected for life in Venezuela.

So it is obvious that your consipracy theories are crazy and have no bearing on reality whatsoever.

**rvg** · 09-28-2009, 23:44

Actually, it is you who is spouting nonsense. What you said about Hugo's 3rd term is a load of crap. He lost a 3rd term referendum back 2005, but this February he called another 3rd term referendum and won. Thus, if you're gonna argue about Hugo's non-dictatorial ambitions get a clue and check the news prior to posting yet another nonsensical tirade.

**Tribesman** · 09-29-2009, 00:16

Actually, it is you who is spouting nonsense.

**Husar** · 09-29-2009, 00:28

I can find this.
that was a referendum but I found nothing about an actual amendment on the constitution and So rvg has a point that he won a referendum and tribesman seems to be right that it says absolutely nothing about his constitutional chances to actually stay longer because that referendum was just a poll on whether or not people would support an amendment, only an actual amendment would allow him to stay for life but since there has been no amendment we can safely say that he is NOT de-facto president for life. Clear?!

**rvg** · 09-29-2009, 01:20

Originally Posted by Husar

I can find this.
that was a referendum but I found nothing about an actual amendment on the constitution and So rvg has a point that he won a referendum and tribesman seems to be right that it says absolutely nothing about his constitutional chances to actually stay longer because that referendum was just a poll on whether or not people would support an amendment, only an actual amendment would allow him to stay for life but since there has been no amendment we can safely say that he is NOT de-facto president for life. Clear?!

No. The referendum actually changed the Venezuelan constitution, specifically Article 230:

Pre-Feb 2009: The presidential term of office lasts six years. The President of the Republic may be re-elected immediately and only once for one more term.

Currently: The presidential term of office lasts six years. The President of the Republic may be re-elected.