Pirate Ship Mafia [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yarrr, I be pointin' out that a group that didn't end up saving a life also nets you gold. But I'm mightily interested in what Chaotix meant by "100" gold. Perhaps he meant to say "10", but I can't speak fer him.

If you got 15 then someone skipped out of your group?

Now yer talkin'.

[TinCow]

No, it gets 30 divided among the participants. I take chaotix's post to be a typo (should be 10). If you got 15 then someone skipped out of your group?

Next time, let the suspect answer instead of giving him a spoon-fed excuse.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Next time, let the suspect answer instead of giving him a spoon-fed excuse.

I'm not concerned about chaotix. He would have claimed typo in any case, and it doesn't follow as a mafia slipup. Why would he think he supposed to get 100 gold?

But yes, I'm focused on someone else right now...this is distracting us from woad&fangs...since you like letting suspects answer, how did you like his answer to my accusation (with the picture of the bird).

[Askthepizzaguy]

I be thinkin' that Tratorix should let us know who else was supposed to be workin' with 'im last night, so we can find out who is lying down on the job... or perhaps, just plain lying. Everyone should know, but if it were a problem, he should at least tell the Cap'n.

[Tratorix]

I be thinkin' that Tratorix should let us know who else was supposed to be workin' with 'im last night, so we can find out who is lying down on the job... or perhaps, just plain lying. Everyone should know, but if it were a problem, he should at least tell the Cap'n.

In good time, me rhymin' friend. I be, hmmm, pursuin' the matter as we speak.

Update: Turns out I only got 10 for the protection, 3 for voting and 2 for sending in an order. Dead end.

[atheotes]

I guess that some orders weren't submitted, so I FoS: All Lurkers...

Vote: Psychonaut

The night phase ended at 9am in Sydney so it seems plausible that someone inactive would miss out night orders if the phase ended at an awkward time... I think that made sense - I know what I mean.

Arent you from Sydney as well?

No, it gets 30 divided among the participants. I take chaotix's post to be a typo (should be 10). If you got 15 then someone skipped out of your group?

It is good if the money is not split three ways if one of the protectors pull out!

there were 2 solo attacks with a difference between them... Lg was able to fight off himself but Centurion needed the protectors. Was it simply because Centurion had protectors, GH decided to put them in the write up even though the attack would have failed anyway?

The 2 solo attackers could be
1. Serial Killer or secret role (Quite possible for LG's attacker if LG was British Special officer and had a % chance of survival)
2. Mafia members with a partner who failed to submit orders (Most likely)
3. vigilantes (least likely because there should be a high chance of them getting killed)

I think no. 2 is most possible and we possibly have 2 inactives each from the maven crew and British.

I also think we can clear 3 people. It would make no sense for the mafia to be committed to a protection group when the chances of that person getting hit is less than 1/40.

please correct me if ("where" is probably more apt ) i am wrong

[Lord Winter]

He sent that before LG came under big suspicion. And I'm hoping LG was the british special officer, but then again I'm an optimist

Still doesn't matter. Hmm maybe your right, he deserves the lynch but that doesn't mean you can make a quick buck off it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

In good time, me rhymin' friend. I be, hmmm, pursuin' the matter as we speak.

Update: Turns out I only got 10 for the protection, 3 for voting and 2 for sending in an order. Dead end.

YARRR!!! That led me to an interesting discovery, as I rechecked my own gold totals.

Know this, crew and Cap'n, I got the full 10 last night, when there were to be a group of four. I can account for the rest of me gold, the starting gold, and I can account for the extra three being my votin' gold.

Someone in me team didn't send in thar orders.

EDIT: NEVER YE MIND, forgot about the 2 for sending in the orders....

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Still doesn't matter. Hmm maybe your right, he deserves the lynch but that doesn't mean you can make a quick buck off it.

The way to make money in this game is protection groups. You get the money even if the person isn't attacked. A 5 man kill group (8 gold) that might fail isn't really "making a quick buck".

YARRR!!! That led me to an interesting discovery, as I rechecked my own gold totals.

Know this, crew and Cap'n, I got the full 10 last night, when there were to be a group of four. I can account for the rest of me gold, the starting gold, and I can account for the extra three being my votin' gold.

Someone in me team didn't send in thar orders.

Are you sure you didn't forget the 2 gold for sending in an order? With a 4 person group it should be 8,8,7,7 gold for the 4 with the 8 going to those who submitted orders first.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Pizza, you also got two gold for simply submitting a night order, regardless of success.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yarrr... it makes sense now.

Come to think of it, could we catch a traitor that way? In order to disguise their movements, the Mavens and the Brits would likely need to follow orders and merely recruit, if they could get caught by a careful count of the gold each night. Somethin' isn't adding up, and I don't just mean my own bad math skills.

[Tratorix]

Pizza, you also got two gold for simply submitting a night order, regardless of success.

This is a really great way of encouraging participation, BTW. I approve.

[Lord Winter]

@Sasski, true I'm just uncomfortable with townies killing townies at this part of the game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The 2 solo attackers could be
1. Serial Killer or secret role (Quite possible for LG's attacker if LG was British Special officer and had a % chance of survival)
2. Mafia members with a partner who failed to submit orders (Most likely)
3. vigilantes (least likely because there should be a high chance of them getting killed)

Can the captain's first Mate not also perform a solo kill? Yarrr....

[Diana Abnoba]

The 2 single attackers to me seem like mafia hits. First one had protection so the attack failed. The second one, mafia hit 1st, if some players have luck like in capo, then the second hit, was VA kill and only 1 of 3 protectors showed.

@ Louis VI

I was in a protection group last night, to answer your question some posts back, confirmed by Pizza.


IC:

* Itchy Lou wakes up hungover*

Me mouth is as dry as the desert, wher's me rum.

*takes a drink from his rum bottle*

Yarrr, wher's me parrot too, here pete, where the +=$# are ye.

* Itchy Lou only finds one long tail feather*

[Sasaki Kojiro]

@Sasski, true I'm just uncomfortable with townies killing townies at this part of the game.

Well, I'm not sure, but I think even random kills by townies lead to a higher chance of victory. At least in a game without two factions that's true. In those games, the mafia get to kill two townies, and the town has a chance at lynching a mafia. 3 people die a round. So, if the town vigs for three nights straight, they get one less lynch. But that's 3 shots at mafia compared to one, good for town. And LG was a very good suspect.

Can the captain's first Mate not also perform a solo kill? Yarrr....

It's possible Louis tried to kill grizz, yes. Although the solo attacker got defeated rather easily in the writeup.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Just got on my computer. Can someone tell me who we are all bandwagoning on today so I don't have to read 5 pages?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Just got on my computer. Can someone tell me who we are all bandwagoning on today so I don't have to read 5 pages?

Woad&Fangs


And Diana, we don't know if it's possible yet for anyone to be confirmed to have been in a protection group.

[pevergreen]

Plus, being confirmed by one other person doesnt mean a whole lot.

Not until proven innocent.

[Diana Abnoba]

Fine, do you like the word, vouch for, better. Was just answering the question, Louis posted, myself, as well.

[Tratorix]

Woad&Fangs


And Diana, we don't know if it's possible yet for anyone to be confirmed to have been in a protection group.

Sasaki, would you stop shooting down anything anyone says? Your not exactly stimulating discussion. And what is your case against W&F's exactly?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sasaki, would you stop shooting down anything anyone says? Your not exactly stimulating discussion. And what is your case against W&F's exactly?

I didn't mean to shoot her down, but we can't go off the assumption that someone is "confirmed" or "accounted for" because they were in a townie group.

And my case against W&F's was posted earlier, if LG was mafia woad is likely his partner. It's been some time since I accused LG in the thread and his partners haven't shown up, even with his threatened vig killing and woads threatened lynch. It's worth taking a shot at crippling one of the mafia factions.

-edit-

I really feel that we are not in a "random vote, it's just round 1" phase.

[CountArach]

Arent you from Sydney as well?

Yes but I, on the other hand, was also notably active during that time. I also have no life...

[Yaropolk]

Yarr, you scurvie dogs calling my name, you're going to end up with a peg leg down ye gullt! I'm looking at you Princess. I looked at me paycheck and I see that it lists all the dubloons I have so far, not how much I earned that day. If Chaotix lists 100, then he's still where he started. Methinks his partner was off polishing his peg leg if you get me drift HAR HAR HAR! vote Woad&Fangs

[atheotes]

Are we sure we will get money even if we dont have the required number of people for protection?

from the rules:

30: Amount awarded for successfully protecting an individual, divided up evenly among protectors (if treasure is left over, the remainder goes to those who sent in orders earlier)

It looks like none of the 3 receive any money rather than 2 of them splitting it...


Yaro, even if one of the Chaotix's partners failed to protect, Chaotix should have more than 100 gold because he voted to select the captain...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Are we sure we will get money even if we dont have the required number of people for protection?

Let's say a protection group has three people, and somebody skimps out on their order, but the target is not attacked. The two people that still submitted the protection order will still only get 10.

[atheotes]

thanks for the clarification

what happens if the target is killed and the 2 protectors survive? they will not get anything because the protection effort was unsuccessful?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Correct, they won't get anything (save for the 2 gold from submitting a night order).

[a completely inoffensive name]

Woad&Fangs

K, no one else replied to my post with a different name so I will just follow you blindly.

vote Woad&Fangs

[LittleGrizzly]

Please people, a little faith in my ability... I wouldn't have jumped into centre stage so quickly in the game If i really didn't want to be there...

Im not allowed to discuss my role ect. now im dead...

W&F is a wasted lynch, lynching the person killing and organising murders is probably a better idea...

Im now in Pirate land (hevaen/hell) where im scrubbing the rafters to try and boost my meagre funds...

Thanks for the Game GH, I enjoyed it, ill keep watching...