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    • The muslim world
    • Europe
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    He got the nobel prize for those achievments. This prize is a hint that this path is the only one for global peace. Something the former administration did not realize.
    So essentially he gets a Nobel Prize for doing his job and he has not actually achieved too much of that. I really do think that while it is admirable work he's done and all; it is not really Nobel Prize material: not yet. Nobel Prizes should go to continuous & sustained efforts, for perseverance in the face of difficulty and to exceptional breakthroughs in the field of endeavour. So far Obama has done a lot but it is mostly symbolic and certainly not a continuous & sustained effort (he's been in office for less than a year); though it is certainly better than the rile-up-the-rest-of-the-world-and-do-not-care attitude that the previous administration was so successful at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios View Post
    So essentially he gets a Nobel Prize for doing his job and he has not actually achieved too much of that.
    In a nutshell: He does his work a lot better then his predecessor
    I really do think that while it is admirable work he's done and all; it is not really Nobel Prize material: not yet. Nobel Prizes should go to continuous & sustained efforts, for perseverance in the face of difficulty and to exceptional breakthroughs in the field of endeavour.
    From the NY times:
    As to whether the prize was given too early in Mr. Obama’s presidency, he said: “We are not awarding the prize for what may happen in the future but for what he has done in the previous year. We would hope this will enhance what he is trying to do.”

    The prize committee said it wanted to enhance Mr. Obama’s diplomatic efforts so far rather than anticipate events in the future.


    So far Obama has done a lot but it is mostly symbolic and certainly not a continuous & sustained effort (he's been in office for less than a year);
    Sometimes a symbol is all it takes. Thes speech of Cairo cannot be downplayed.
    though it is certainly better than the rile-up-the-rest-of-the-world-and-do-not-care attitude that the previous administration was so successful at.
    So?

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    Sometimes a symbol is all it takes. Thes speech of Cairo cannot be downplayed.
    Yes but my point is that is a symbol from a man who's been in an office from which we expect symbols like that on a regular basis; also a man who's promised lots of stuff but so far has yet to deliver much of that too -- when there are so many other and at the moment certainly more deserving candidates with a much more inspiring track record?

    As it stands it's a bit of a waste of a Nobel Prize moment, really.

    CountArach summed it up nicely:
    I'm not arguing that he isn't trying, but thousands of other people are working towards it as well. He is simply in a high-profile position and has a penchant for oratory.
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