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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Winter View Post
    Do you have a source for those claims. According to the EPA the bulk of the greenhouse gases are carbon dioxide and not methane. In addition the volclano claim is false:
    From the USGS:
    I am not certain about volcanoes, although I tend to lean on Beskar's side (volcanoes have always been the decisive factor in climate shifts), but I will have to point out that CH4 is precisely twenty times more potent grenhouse gas than CO2. In addition to CO2, volcanoes likewise produce a plethora of other gases. Which are generally more pivotal than the CO2, as carbon dioxide is a relatively light compound, quite weak as a "greenhouse gas".

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    Im pretty sure trees do actually take in some C02 (mostly in but occasionally they release some) and whilst planting trees may not be the most effective thing I don't think this too much harm planting a few, we have cut down counltess numbers over the years so I wouldn't say its a bad thing. Trees are quite nice also....
    Plant as many as you wish, but you are wasting your time, effort, and funds, climatologically speaking. I repeat: while they take in some CO2, counting on them to lower the planet's temperature is akin to trusting a single maggot to digest a bull, isntead of letting a tiger loose. Dump ground iron in the oceans, and that is a quite sure bet to cool down the Earth as well as increase its oxygen supply. But that coupled with global dimming and the possibility of an impending natural Ice Age will turn our planet into a snowball one. I would rather let global warming do its job, if it is still in force.
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    As for sources, it is standard science at a GCSE level (actually, even lower too) in Britain. In otherwords, common knowledge domain.

    Also, Aemilius Paulus raised the other point. It isn't just CO2, there are many others such as methane, which as he said, are twenty times more potent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    I am not certain about volcanoes, although I tend to lean on Beskar's side (volcanoes have always been the decisive factor in climate shifts), but I will have to point out that CH4 is precisely twenty times more potent grenhouse gas than CO2. In addition to CO2, volcanoes likewise produce a plethora of other gases. Which are generally more pivotal than the CO2, as carbon dioxide is a relatively light compound, quite weak as a "greenhouse gas".

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    Plant as many as you wish, but you are wasting your time, effort, and funds, climatologically speaking. Dump ground iron in the oceans, and that is a quite sure bet to cool down the Earth as well as increase its oxygen supply. But that coupled with global dimming and the possibility of an impending natural Ice Age will turn our planet into a snowball one. I would rather let global warming do its job, if it is still in force.
    The EPA figures were adjusted for the effect of the gas on global warming. While it's true Volcano's have been a factor in global climate change isn't it true that we're not experiencing the same level of volcanic activity that has occurred in the past? I've also heard from my geology teacher that CO2 levels are raising faster today then they were during those extinction events although I'm having trouble finding a source for that.

    EDIT: All the sources I'm seeing are conflicting with what your saying Beskar. You're going to need sources to back up your assertions. I've provided mine.
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    and whilst planting trees may not be the most effective thing

    so I wouldn't say its a bad thing.

    Two important parts of my post AP. I wasn't aruging that planting trees to combat CO2 is a good idea (although they take in small amounts) I was arguing that planting trees is a bad thing, thier pretty, do some small work towards converting CO2 to O, and are a good supply of wood....

    But I do agree as a strategy for stopping global warming not great...

    I wouldn't want something to drastic done about global warming as you said we could go to far the other way (or just mess up something else) I would rather we reduced (or somewhat nuetralised) our effect. Only if we are in serious trouble should we go to dratic measures (if were dead if we dont) otherwise we could just makes things worse...
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