Europe

[LittleGrizzly]

so your saying this association of 'community' within the national culture is shared by some but not others.....................?

agreed, you're a case in point, as am i.

Im glad you agree, Britian runs along smoothly dispite many different values and cultures throughout the land...

the answer to this dilemma might be a referendum, a referendum on the post-sovereign issue of the day; Britains place within the EU perhaps...............? i'd be happy to apply that experiment to the dilemma, would you?

Lol, nicely turned.

I have nothing paticular against referendums, its good to see the public get more of a say.... there is an element of the masses who really don't know what thier talking about (most people) being swayed this way or that. and theres an element of of we elect people to make the decisions for us... AFAIK its been no secret that Labour were going to agree to it without a referendum and they have won an election since... so its not as if people had no warning...

All that being said I would have been happier having a referendum, but as I understand from my reading of the political commentator Tribesman the point is moot as we cannot call one now anyway...

[Furunculus]

the answer to this dilemma might be a referendum, a referendum on the post-sovereign issue of the day; Britains place within the EU perhaps...............? i'd be happy to apply that experiment to the dilemma, would you?

Lol, nicely turned.

I have nothing paticular against referendums, its good to see the public get more of a say.... there is an element of the masses who really don't know what thier talking about (most people) being swayed this way or that. and theres an element of of we elect people to make the decisions for us... AFAIK its been no secret that Labour were going to agree to it without a referendum and they have won an election since... so its not as if people had no warning...

All that being said I would have been happier having a referendum, but as I understand from my reading of the political commentator Tribesman the point is moot as we cannot call one now anyway...

thanks, it is kind of obvious tho.

i do object to referendums, in all instances except where our governors intend to give away the Kratos, that we the Demos entrusted to them so that they may act in our name. and the fact that labour betrayed this trust by campaigning on a referndum and failing to use it is no doubt part of the peadophile level of pupularity they now enjoy.

i applaud the fact you have the courage of your convictions, however i think your confidence is misplaced, and that changes nothing from the fact that:
a) we can have a referendum on anything we like
b) we should have a referendum to ask whether the government acted with our permission when it handed over large tranches of governing authority to a third party, especially given that the agreement was to a self amending treaty which will prevent such inflection points, where the public demand to be asked, in future.