Pirate Ship Mafia [Concluded]

[A1_Unit]

vote:Abstain I'll probably change this later when I have more time.

[pevergreen]

FYI, pevergreen was the fourth person in the ATPG vig hit. However, I don't think Louis was the one who killed him. This time the blunderbuss killer was described as having some sort of glowing eyes. That seems like a special role to me, not a First Officer kill.

Why didn't you rat me out last round?

If it was louis, and he is pro town, he may have made a good move.

[TinCow]

Why didn't you rat me out last round?

Sorry, I interpreted your previous couple posts as desiring to talk about that but being unable to do so due to being dead and it not having been revealed. I thought I was doing you a favor.

[Diana Abnoba]

Killed by a vig group! You guys are not townies in that vig group. You keep killing other townies, like myself. You all must go. This is where some of the mafia are hiding, town.

To General, thanks for putting my made up character, in the write up. At least it made it more fun for me, to read about my death.

Good luck town! Get them mafia scum!

[pevergreen]

Sorry, I interpreted your previous couple posts as desiring to talk about that but being unable to do so due to being dead and it not having been revealed. I thought I was doing you a favor.

You did, .

I just couldn't believe you guys weren't saying who I was...what was the reason for not revealing me last round?

[Beskar]

It is actually a fact there was British co-operation with the vigilante hit on Diana Abnoba. Also, the reason me and Diana were both hit was not by concidence either, it was organised by those same people.

Vigilante group, step forward and come clean, if there is a townie amongst you.

[Death is yonder]

Cut me some slack, because our former Quartermaster Sigurd did turn out to be a dirty rotten Maven traitor, after all.

Aye, looks like the cap'n be deserving of some temporary slack.

Vote:Abstain

[miotas]

This is all so confusing.

Vote: Abstain for now

[a completely inoffensive name]

I will have time to read and vote after I get back from school tomorrow so I will postpone making a decision until then.

[Beskar]

I want to know why 3 people were inactive last night, while they were assigned to protection groups, if they don't speak up, I am going to vote for one of them.

So if you was inactive last night, you better speak up, incase I am referring to you.

[CountArach]

FoS: Everyone who is abstaining

Avoiding making enemies until a bandwagon forms, etc. I'm going to go over the threada little later and see what I can come up with then.

[naut]

Vote: Death is Yonder

The breeze in the rigging.
The smell of rum, 'n' vomit and stale biscuits.
And I'll point my dimpled, salt wrinkled finger.

[TinCow]

You did, .

I just couldn't believe you guys weren't saying who I was...what was the reason for not revealing me last round?

I considered you an ally against ATPG, who I still want removed from office.

[Andres]

Are you guys just waiting for your captain to tell you who will be the lynch of the day?

[CountArach]

Vote: Chaotix

Looking back over his posts it seems he has simply been refusing to make any enemies and is going with the flow. We start here where he joins the Lord Winter bandwagon for no reason at all and then, when it becomes apparent that Lord Winter isn’t going to be lynched, he moves to the Sigurd bandwagon, again without any reasoning at all.
Following this, we then get this post from Chaotix where he says a lot, but absolutely nothing at all and makes a random pressure vote whilst ignoring the major lynch targets. Then he throws in the following [frankly, quite bizarre] suggestion:

We can force ATPG and Andres to leave the boat tonight. Then they won't be recruited, and they will still be townie, irrevocably. Win-win situation. If they don't leave within two phases, then we assume they are converted and lynch them. Easy as pie.

So he advocates the killing of two people if they don’t leave, which would make sense if he somehow knew they weren’t on his side... The town gains nothing from the wanton killing of townies and to advocate otherwise is lunacy.

In the next day phase we get a vote for mutiny here with no apparent reasoning and perhaps a wanton misunderstanding of what the special abilities of the Captain-appointed roles are. This post, put up only shortly after the above one serves to sow disunity amongst the town. He ignores the fact that CR, by becoming Captain, would have made himself the prime target of every detective in the game. Finally, he retracted his vote for mutiny 4 hours later, saying:

Now let's stop this bandwagon on pevergreen and go for a better target. pever is, in all likelihood, still a townie. The mafia are definitely too afraid to mutiny and draw attention to themselves.

Trying to stop a bandwagon after already being involved in one earlier is hypocritical, but that’s not a huge thing. The last sentence seems strange however and smells like an attempt to make it seem he was trying to set a trap for the mafia to vote with him for mutiny. Further, he voted for ricera without any real explanation.
When you add to that his recent abstention you get the sense that he is simply trying to avoid making enemies and he is trying not to say too much at all. So I would like two things from Chaotix:
1) An explanation for all your votes thus far I the game.
2) Your thoughts on who is suspicious and needs to be lynched.

Until then I can’t help but think you aren’t working for the Town.

[Louis VI the Fat]

What have you been up to, Sigurd? You've been rather non-talkative through PMs and in the thread. Something in my gut makes me rather suspicious of you.

Arrr...that there be a true cap'n.

Killed by a vig group! You guys are not townies in that vig group. You keep killing other townies, like myself. You all must go. This is where some of the mafia are hiding, town.

Yes. Apart from the lone Maven killer, the mafia are not killing themselves. Possibly, they managed to convince townies that killing other townies together with them is a clever strategy. Certainly, for the English it is.

Why don't you guys share the names of your vig group? Then we can go over it together and weed out possible English infiltrators?

(Never a good lynch candidate during the day. But at night, oh boy! Apparantly always plenty of candidates who need to be vig killed right now!)

FYI, pevergreen was the fourth person in the ATPG vig hit. However, I don't think Louis was the one who killed him.

No, it wasn't me indeed.

But hopefully, Blunderbuss Bessy will have hit the jackpot and killed an Englishman...




So who is the last maven? The one whom we presume is the 'Pirate Tale' killer?
I FoS for suspects:
A Very Super Market
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Death is Yonder
Double A
Joooray
Khazaar
Lord Winter
miotas
Psychonaut
Reenk Roink
SSNeoperestroika

[pevergreen]

You dont need to keep looking?

[Andres]

Why don't you guys share the names of your vig group? Then we can go over it together and weed out possible English infiltrators?

TinCow just mentioned the fourth person of the vig group on ATPG: pevergreen.

So, a vig group has been TinCow, Sasaki, me and pever.

You killed me and pever already, I take you'll kill TinCow and Sasaki the next nights?

How about a First Officer convincing his Captain that killing at night is necessary? Or convincing his Captain that he hasn't been out killing but investigating?

Have we ever seen a full list of all your night actions, Louis?

Or a list with your night actions so far and some people backing up that claim?

We aren't supposed to blindly follow you, CR and ATPG, are we?

We have gotten a few mavens, but so far not a single British agent. Or is the sacrifice of an agent to give yourself some credibility sheduled for today?

I think it's time for a public role reveal and a full list of all night actions from the men we are supposed to follow blindly. It's a fair question.

[Andres]

So who is the last maven? The one whom we presume is the 'Pirate Tale' killer?
I FoS for suspects:
A Very Super Market
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Death is Yonder
Double A
Joooray
Khazaar
Lord Winter
miotas
Psychonaut
Reenk Roink
SSNeoperestroika

So, we're only looking for mavens?

Not interested in the British agents?

[Joooray]

I have to leave home now and since I'm not sure if I'm going to able to vote later I'll have to (in lack of any better suggestions and because CA makes an interesting case) Vote: Chaotix.

@Louis:
I thought I had cleared myself of being any of the starting scum. Why do you still suspect me of being maven?

[miotas]

So, we're only looking for mavens?

Not interested in the British agents?

The maverns seem to be doing more damage than the Brits, and maybe it's because I'm new to this, or maybe I'm just thick, but I am completely at a loss as to who the Brits could be.

Also, are we sure that the story killer is the mavern? Before last night I would have thought the Bess killer was the mavern, but now with this demonic bluderbuss, I'm not so sure.

Now my brain hurts from too much booze and thinking so I'm gonna have a snooze.

[Reenk Roink]

Vote: Yaropolk

FoS: khaan, Chaotix

Arach-san has made the first decent case of the game. However going with the gut is still better at this point. Though I didn't mind ricera being lynched last round (something felt off with him - like the feeling I got when gibsons "looked for work" with CR in my group) while I get no such feeling on Chaotix. Of course, Yaropolk must die.

[Andres]

We should really worry about the Brits; with 5 votes, they have a strong block. Take into account that they have one or two smooth talkers among them to steer the town into a certain direction, and we're in big trouble.

Have one of them in the position of officer or Captain, manipulating the town during the day and the night, and it's dramatic.

CR, Louis and ATPG need to be questioned seriously and thoroughly.

Role pm's and list of all night actions, to be posted preferably yesterday.

I wouldn't mind Chaotix posting his role pm and a list of night actions as well.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Andres, the only time I ordered the crew to vote for someone was for Sigurd. And we know who he was.

CR

[Andres]

Andres, the only time I ordered the crew to vote for someone was for Sigurd. And we know who he was.

CR

Who orders/organises the town groups?

Why shouldn't we question you, pizza and Louis?

In fact, I'm getting bad vibes from Louis since the beginning of the game, something about him sounds 'off'

[Yaropolk]

Vote: Yaropolk

FoS: khaan, Chaotix

RR, why are you voting for me every round?

[Crazed Rabbit]

Who orders/organises the town groups?

Why shouldn't we question you, pizza and Louis?

In fact, I'm getting bad vibes from Louis since the beginning of the game, something about him sounds 'off'

What you are asking for is a list of who we've been protecting and investigating. Information I see no reason to hand to the mafia.

And Louis has been investigated and found to be a townie.

CR

[Andres]

And Louis has been investigated and found to be a townie.

Says who? Hm? A Captain who's innocence hasn't been confirmed either.

Sorry for being sceptic.

Townie network was succesful in Capo III, but has failed numerous times because it was infiltrated by the mafia.

Why would we believe you? Being Captain doesn't say anything about your allegiance. Why should we trust Louis? Or Pizza? Have you been in contact with investigators that were not Louis? Were they investigated on their turn? Are they still alive? Does the mafia have the power to investigate? We've only gotten mafiosi from one group, not a single British agent. That's reason enough to worry.

EDIT: also:

What you are asking for is a list of who we've been protecting and investigating. Information I see no reason to hand to the mafia.

This doesn't help your credibility.

Did I ask for all details? No. You could have said: N1,2,3 : protecting "not for you to know" with name and name; vig killing on N4 with name, name, name; protecting N5. Instead you answer nothing, which is perfect if you don't want to get caught in a lie later on.

Not answering a question is better than lieing if you have something to hide.

You can at least give a partial answer, with names of other players who can then vouch for you or tell us you are a liar.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Says who? Hm? A Captain who's innocence hasn't been confirmed either.

No, say investigators.

CR

[Louis VI the Fat]

Joooray - the list is made by taking the list of living players, and substracting those who voted Sigurd*, and those with an investigation result of action on them on a night the last Maven killed. You are not suspects, you are players that rae not cleared. The list serves as a starting point of discussion. I know that several players are a long shot, some work with me too, and some I totally trust too. I have an obligation to keep all possibilities open. To let other players share their thoughts, and to share what I know with the crew.

*One caveat - it is possible that the last maven considered Sigurd's lynch a foregone conclusion, and quickly voted him so as not to be on this list once Sigurd would be confirmed as maven.

So, a vig group has been TinCow, Sasaki, me and pever.


Have we ever seen a full list of all your night actions, Louis?

I know who this group is. That's why I don't vote them, kill them, or pressure them. We have long since made peace. I mean the other vig group.

My night actions are investigating. Certainly, the First Mate job description does not say 'supernatural creature with a bewitched thunderbus'. Obviously, this is some sort of special role. The 'Pirate Tale' killer I assume is the last maven. Two have been killed, the last can kill on his own. So the single kills are not me. Duh.

I hope you will be revealed to be either English or some sort of anti-officer role, Andres. Or else I just can't figure out what is up with you this game. To think that so many times have I tried to prove your innocence, both in this thread and in PM's to people. You have even been in all my wills from day one.