Hardees v.s. McDonalds

[Vuk]

Why is this in the Backroom instead of the Frontroom? Well, because every time I talk about this with someone it gets to subjects of sexuality and politics, so I thought that I would save the moderators some trouble and just post it here. :P
Ok, here is the deal, which place do you like to eat at the most (assuming you eat at either, otherwise do not waste my time by posting ), and why do you prefer it over the other? The price? The menu? The types of people it attracts? Your sexual preference? The colour of your car? ... you get the point.

For me, it is Hardees hands down. I very rarely eat out, but when I do, it is always Hardees. The food there is marvelous (as good as the really expensive crap you get at some of the fancy sit down restaurants, and better than some), and the food costs a fraction of the cost. I generally have much better experiences with the employees there than I ever did at McDonalds, it is always clean, very quick considering the quality of food you are getting, and of course I have chest hair.

McDonalds food tastes like Chris Matthew's socks, is made of much cheaper, less healthy ingredients (esp their shakes), employees at every McDonalds I have ever been at were arrogant turds, and they had been generally pretty filthy.

Get to it, which one and why?

[Samurai Waki]

both disgusting. I can't stress enough, how horrible fast food is. Takes five minutes to make a sandwich...

[rvg]

neither. Hate mcdonald's and never been to hardee's.

[Vuk]

both disgusting. I can't stress enough, how horrible fast food is. Takes five minutes to make a sandwich...

lol, I know it is not healthy, which is why I very rarely eat it (I get fat enough with my own cooking :P). It still tastes good though!

[Lemur]

Subway FTW.

[Csargo]

Subway FTL.

McDonalds is terrible. TERRIBLE. There isn't a Hardees around here, so it's probably terrible as well.

[Vuk]

Subway FTW.

Too healthy, too expensive.
(personally, I like Subway too, but I cannot afford to eat out there other than maybe once or twice a year)

[Strike For The South]

Too healthy, too expensive.
(personally, I like Subway too, but I cannot afford to eat out there other than maybe once or twice a year)

Um....5$ footlongs? It's no more exspensive than either of the places you listed

If I eat fast food it's going to be at Whataburger, raising Cains or Freebirds.

I will eat McDs dollar menu if I'm low on cash and need the cals.

[Lemur]

(personally, I like Subway too, but I cannot afford to eat out there other than maybe once or twice a year)

A ham footlong with all of the veggies and cheese is $5. How is that too expensive?

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Strike beat me to it. He's just too much man for the rest of us.

[naut]

Subway FTL.

Yeah a $10 sandwich. Or I could buy some cheap Asian goodies down in China town.

Best fast food though is this chicken burger place near where I live. Best. Burgers. Ever.

[Subotan]

What's a Hardee?

[Meneldil]

Ok, here is the deal, which place do you like to eat at the most (assuming you eat at either, otherwise do not waste my time by posting ),

Why did you then add an option for people who don't eat at any one these places if it wastes your time ?

Fast food is crap, the only reason why so many north american are so fat they can't even grab their TV controller. Each time you eat in one of these places, you make Europeans and Chineses wealthier and happier, and you're slowly walking toward the downfall of your civilization. Thank you

I'd eat in the crappiest "fancy sit-down restaurant" ever rather then go to Wendy's another time. I wish I could just have thrown out the Baconator I tried 6 months ago. I'm pretty sure it will shorten my lifespawn by a 6 months, if not by a full year.

[caravel]

Yuck...

If you saw what went into beef burgers you wouldn't eat them.

[Beskar]

Yuck...

If you saw what went into beef burgers you wouldn't eat them.

Mince Beef, onion, herbs, and blackpepper?

I am guessing you meant Mc Donalds though.

[Subotan]

thank the lord i keep kosher

I must know the answer to this question; Are there Kosher Fast Food Chains?

[Beskar]

Yes, there are lots of Kosher Deli's, even one on campus here.

[Hooahguy]

I must know the answer to this question; Are there Kosher Fast Food Chains?

not really, at least not here in the US. the closest we have to that are pizza places, but in israel schwarma joints and pizza places are the fast food. oh, and in israel there is kosher Buger King and Pizza Huts and the like. Bugur King wasnt anything special, but Piza Hut was awesome.

[caravel]

Mince Beef, onion, herbs, and blackpepper?

I am guessing you meant Mc Donalds though.

"Minced Beef" is a somewhat loose term. There is minced beef and there is minced beef. The preferable kind is that which has been produced from decent custs of meant, though this is rarely the case when it comes to mince - especially the economy stuff used in fast food outlets. Such burgers have no real texture and it takes the addition of soya to provide this.

The beef burgers sold in fast food outlets tend to comprise of bone meal, fat, soya and offal. Lean meat rarely features. McDonalds had an advertising campaign over here some years back that involved the words %100 British Beef". Again a loose term. If I liquidise the spine, eyeballs and udders to make my McNagamasaburger it's still %100 percent british beef and there is no burger made of 100% beef anyway. It's deliberately misleading and simply means that the beef is not from any other countries...

[Beskar]

I was refering to my home-made burgers using quality mince meat. They are very nice.

I was making a point that not all burgers are actually bad. It is just a food that recieved lots of negative press because of companies like Mc Donalds.

[Vuk]

Silly question.

But come to think of it .


have you ever eaten in a real restaurant?


Though you do provide a clue.

You are like those people at a check out somewhere like Macys with piles of coupons, being told repeatedly by the cashier that you can't buy most of the items in the store with them as the coupons are only valid for the cheap crap made for people with no taste.

I will answer your question, yes, I have. Now how about you finally answer the question which I already asked you several posts ago?

FYI, yeah I do collect coupons. It is not a 'cheap' thing, it is a smart thing. Sorry, but I think it is outrageously stupid to waste money because you are afraid of carrying coupons or just too lazy. And no, I am not that type of person, and the coupons from Hardees will get you great deal on even their best products.
BTW, I did not know that they had any Macys in Ireland, is that something new?

Why did you then add an option for people who don't eat at any one these places if it wastes your time ?

Fast food is crap, the only reason why so many north american are so fat they can't even grab their TV controller. Each time you eat in one of these places, you make Europeans and Chineses wealthier and happier, and you're slowly walking toward the downfall of your civilization. Thank you

I'd eat in the crappiest "fancy sit-down restaurant" ever rather then go to Wendy's another time. I wish I could just have thrown out the Baconator I tried 6 months ago. I'm pretty sure it will shorten my lifespawn by a 6 months, if not by a full year.

lmao, you are forgetting that I was in Europe Meneldil. Europeans eat fast food like crazy! There were multiple McDonalds and Burger Kings in every city I went to, and they were always mobbed.
And FYI, I worked at a sit-down restaurant once, if you think that the food there is any healthier, you are making a big mistake. I washed dishes, but I saw the way the made the food there and what they used. A lot of restaurant's strategies is just to soak things in oil and salt to disguise the taste of the garbage they cook...no different than a fast food place.

[Meneldil]

lmao, you are forgetting that I was in Europe Meneldil. Europeans eat fast food like crazy! There were multiple McDonalds and Burger Kings in every city I went to, and they were always mobbed.
And FYI, I worked at a sit-down restaurant once, if you think that the food there is any healthier, you are making a big mistake. I washed dishes, but I saw the way the made the food there and what they used. A lot of restaurant's strategies is just to soak things in oil and salt to disguise the taste of the garbage they cook...no different than a fast food place.

Of course there are fast food places in Europe. I'll let you find where they all came from (though there are a few european fast food brands, which are just as bad as others).
Now, most people I know eat there every once in a while, because it's cheap and fast. But even there, or at least in France, you'll see 10 times more people buying handmade sandwhiches with real bread and ham, chicken, tuna and what not than people going to cheap ass fast-food places.

Most people who go to fast foods regularly here are what you call "white trashs" and "scums". They have no taste because they also have no brain. They'll get fat and ugly, and that will be well deserved.

On the other hand, a huge load of peopleeats at fast food places in North America. I had 4 room mates last year in Canada. Except for the chinese one (who kept cooking chinese food) none of them was able to cook a burger, pasta or rice by himself. So, they went to the Taco place (tm), to the Burger place (tm), to the Pizza place (tm). No wonder half of them weighted 3 times more than me even though they're only 25. And it wasn't only my room mates. I met a lot of canadians and americans, and most of them were completely unable to cook. So they all went for some junk food.
Same thing in the US. Streets are filled by fast food places, but decent restaurants? They're few and far inbetween (note that I went only to New-England, things might be different elsewhere in the US, but I doubt it).
Now, I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but the fact that obesity is a huge problem in the US and in Canada might be somehow tied to the fact that there's a fast-food place every five meters, and that people overall eat a bunch of unhealthy crap. Or maybe it's just the climate, or some yet undiscovered disease
(Note that there are more and more obesity issues in Europe too, and most the people who studied the issue pointed at a - fast food places, b - other junk food and c - bad eating habits).
And I also worked in a restaurant. Not a cosy 3 stars restaurant, but a decent one. And I know that most people who worked there were actually doing this fancy thing that we call "cooking". Which is a bit more complicated than putting an overcooked and tasteless burger between two slides of tasteless bread.

I'm perfectly willing to admit that some restaurants are crap, that french food is not what it used to be, that Europe is filled by fast food places, but don't fool yourself by thinking that Wendy's, or Burger King or Hardees are serving healthy and tasteful food. They're all crap, and deserve to be terminated (where's the Terminator smiley when you need it?).

[Strike For The South]

Of course there are fast food places in Europe. I'll let you find where they all came from (though there are a few european fast food brands, which are just as bad as others).
Now, most people I know eat there every once in a while, because it's cheap and fast. But even there, or at least in France, you'll see 10 times more people buying handmade sandwhiches with real bread and ham, chicken, tuna and what not than people going to cheap ass fast-food places.

Most people who go to fast foods regularly here are what you call "white trashs" and "scums". They have no taste because they also have no brain. They'll get fat and ugly, and that will be well deserved.

On the other hand, a huge load of peopleeats at fast food places in North America. I had 4 room mates last year in Canada. Except for the chinese one (who kept cooking chinese food) none of them was able to cook a burger, pasta or rice by himself. So, they went to the Taco place (tm), to the Burger place (tm), to the Pizza place (tm). No wonder half of them weighted 3 times more than me even though they're only 25. And it wasn't only my room mates. I met a lot of canadians and americans, and most of them were completely unable to cook. So they all went for some junk food.
Same thing in the US. Streets are filled by fast food places, but decent restaurants? They're few and far inbetween (note that I went only to New-England, things might be different elsewhere in the US, but I doubt it).
Now, I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but the fact that obesity is a huge problem in the US and in Canada might be somehow tied to the fact that there's a fast-food place every five meters, and that people overall eat a bunch of unhealthy crap. Or maybe it's just the climate, or some yet undiscovered disease
(Note that there are more and more obesity issues in Europe too, and most the people who studied the issue pointed at a - fast food places, b - other junk food and c - bad eating habits).
And I also worked in a restaurant. Not a cosy 3 stars restaurant, but a decent one. And I know that most people who worked there were actually doing this fancy thing that we call "cooking". Which is a bit more complicated than putting an overcooked and tasteless burger between two slides of tasteless bread.

I'm perfectly willing to admit that some restaurants are crap, that french food is not what it used to be, that Europe is filled by fast food places, but don't fool yourself by thinking that Wendy's, or Burger King or Hardees are serving healthy and tasteful food. They're all crap, and deserve to be terminated (where's the Terminator smiley when you need it?).

I must say I agree with the frog. None of these places offer healthy choices and TBH there are places that serve much better quailty food just as fast (Freebirds, raising cains which is allot of carbs but they use real ingredients)

Everytime I eat McDs I feel sick the next day and I have unfriendly bowel movements. Go to a sit down place and spend a couple extra bucks.

I'm a grocer and I know what kind of meat these places use. The fact that half of us aren't dead from ecoli is a testament to how good chemical treatring is these days (which is just as bad for you)

[Vuk]

According to the "Serbian Beef" thread, that time was not too long ago at all... boy, you sure change quickly... So, repeat: Italian prosciutto or do not eat meat at all.

Nah, I obey the food laws, I just do not believe in a Rabbi having to bless it. That is what I am saying to Hooah. He can obey God's law without needing a Rabbi to bless the making of his 1/3 lber.

Of course there are fast food places in Europe. I'll let you find where they all came from (though there are a few european fast food brands, which are just as bad as others).
Now, most people I know eat there every once in a while, because it's cheap and fast. But even there, or at least in France, you'll see 10 times more people buying handmade sandwhiches with real bread and ham, chicken, tuna and what not than people going to cheap ass fast-food places.

Most people who go to fast foods regularly here are what you call "white trashs" and "scums". They have no taste because they also have no brain. They'll get fat and ugly, and that will be well deserved.

On the other hand, a huge load of peopleeats at fast food places in North America. I had 4 room mates last year in Canada. Except for the chinese one (who kept cooking chinese food) none of them was able to cook a burger, pasta or rice by himself. So, they went to the Taco place (tm), to the Burger place (tm), to the Pizza place (tm). No wonder half of them weighted 3 times more than me even though they're only 25. And it wasn't only my room mates. I met a lot of canadians and americans, and most of them were completely unable to cook. So they all went for some junk food.
Same thing in the US. Streets are filled by fast food places, but decent restaurants? They're few and far inbetween (note that I went only to New-England, things might be different elsewhere in the US, but I doubt it).
Now, I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but the fact that obesity is a huge problem in the US and in Canada might be somehow tied to the fact that there's a fast-food place every five meters, and that people overall eat a bunch of unhealthy crap. Or maybe it's just the climate, or some yet undiscovered disease
(Note that there are more and more obesity issues in Europe too, and most the people who studied the issue pointed at a - fast food places, b - other junk food and c - bad eating habits).
And I also worked in a restaurant. Not a cosy 3 stars restaurant, but a decent one. And I know that most people who worked there were actually doing this fancy thing that we call "cooking". Which is a bit more complicated than putting an overcooked and tasteless burger between two slides of tasteless bread.

I'm perfectly willing to admit that some restaurants are crap, that french food is not what it used to be, that Europe is filled by fast food places, but don't fool yourself by thinking that Wendy's, or Burger King or Hardees are serving healthy and tasteful food. They're all crap, and deserve to be terminated (where's the Terminator smiley when you need it?).

Ignoring both your bad language and the fact that French food I had in Europe was gross, fattening crap covered in mayonnaise. No offense, but it is (at least the stuff I saw) extremely fattening, covered in all kinds of garbage, and taste like bile. That said, it is usually served in small portions, which can be a plus for someone who does not have a lifestyle demanding a large intake.

That said, let me tell you that you are wrong about why people are fat. Sure, unhealthy food really contributes to it, but the biggest problem is that people nowadays are a bunch of shiftless, fat, lazy bums. People now adays just do not move. They have everything they need and a heck of a lot more, and they have no need to do anything. They defy authority and the Puritan notion that they should eat healthily and exercise and (oh heavens) get a job! I know lots of people (my 3 brothers for instance) who live off of fast food and are skin, bones, and muscle. My younger brother who does Taekwondo with me is completely ripped and does not have an inch of fat on him, and he eats about 5 burgers a day. You know why? He works...hard. I used to be slim myself too, but when I started going to college and stopped doing honest work I turned into a blimp (and I eat mostly homemade food, just like I used to). You know what the second biggest problem is? Not only do people never move, they eat like pigs. It has less to do with the amount of food that they as it does with how much they eat. I am a fat guy who is struggling with this, so I know what I am talking about. I could go by eating plenty enough to stay healthy and slim, but I always gotta keep eating because I lack the self-control to eat 'just enough'. Every fat person I know either never moves or eats a ton of food. I know people who are both fat and skinny who eat fast food all the time.
And you know what? I agree with you about McDonalds. The more I read about how they make their food and where it comes from, the more disgusted I get. That is why I never eat there.
What you buy at Hardees is still loaded in bad oils and has lots of carbs, but it is real meat, real bread, real tomatoes, real lettuce, etc.
Compared to other fast foods, Hardees is 100 times healthier and more natural. Sure, it is not health food, but so what? It tastes great, is at least as safe as what you buy at a sit down place, and costs a heck of a lot less. Call me white trash again if you want, but I don't care. I like Hardees food, and most people I know who eat there are normal weight or skinny, so it must not be that bad. At least it is not swimming in Mayonnaise!

[Ser Clegane]

the fact that French food I had in Europe was gross, fattening crap covered in mayonnaise.

Now I'm getting curious. What exactly do you mean by "French food in Europe"?

Where in Europe (your remark implies that it was not in France)? And what kind of food exactly?

Just asking because "covered in mayonnaise" does not seem to typically describe any food I have ever eaten (or seen) in France...

[Strike For The South]

blah blah blah blah

Even when I was powerlifiting no one on my team had fast food as a staple make up there diet. I was eating 5,000 calories just to maintain and I still managed to get oats, fruits and veggies in there.

Vuk I think you are confusing being young and having a fast metabolism with not being lazy and that's simply false.

People have different caloreic needs regardless of activity. Some people can eat this stuff and never gain an ounce of anything but most can't and if you're feeding this stuff to children forget about it. That's what's killing us is the kids.

And it really isn't about the calories, it's about the fact this stuff isn't real meat and it's chemically processed (yes even your beloved Hardees) These establishments buy below grade ground chuck. It's disgusting

I'll adimt I eat allot of food and not all the time is it healthy but I have never posted my eating habits and said they were healthy. I eat they way I do to lift heavy arse weight and get big arse muscles, health plays second fiddle but even I hate these places.

[KukriKhan]

Nice Food #3. More food than you can eat at a single sitting. Good food. Prepared in front of you. Served super fast. Cheap. (Bowl o'Noodles or Rice + entree = $3) Vietnamese and Mexican staff. L.A. Korean-owned. Doing a whopping business in this recession, while McD's, BK, etc sit 90% empty.

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I have nothing against burger joints, mind. The chain-places got comfortable with a steady clientele the past 10 years or so, and lost touch (I think) with their ability to innovate. Little start-ups like "Nice Food #3" offer variety, relatively healthy food, on the cheap. Perfect for a quick lunch, when all you're allotted is 30 minutes.