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    i say ribs. for the same amount of money you can get a nice juicy steak with much more meat.
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    Exclamation Re: most overrated food

    Chicken. Enough said, as much as I am fond of verbose posts.

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    Chicken is not overrated you are crazy.
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    caviar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    i say ribs. for the same amount of money you can get a nice juicy steak with much more meat.
    Ribs are way better than steak...

    Most overrated is probably some gourmet food like caviar. Or really expensive wine/beer/liquor.

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    Never been that impressed by beef, outside of Argentina.

    The joy of chicken is that it's so versatile; of course it's bland by itself, that's why you can basically make it taste of anything you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
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    Second the nomination. Fish eggs is fish eggs, and I never saw the point, much less why people would pony up serious money to eat 'em. If I want jellied saltwater, surely I could get it on the cheap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Second the nomination. Fish eggs is fish eggs, and I never saw the point, much less why people would pony up serious money to eat 'em. If I want jellied saltwater, surely I could get it on the cheap?
    +3 It would've been much better to eat the momma salmon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Second the nomination. Fish eggs is fish eggs, and I never saw the point, much less why people would pony up serious money to eat 'em. If I want jellied saltwater, surely I could get it on the cheap?
    You mean caviare, or roe? "Fish eggs" ? What is next - "chicken boobs"??

    Sorry Lemur for not taking a liking to caviare, but believe me, there is much more to its taste than you make it sound... Have you tried it - I would think you did, but one never knows...

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    good caviar is good.
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    I don't mind Caviar, although I have mixed feelings about it, on an ethical level. While it is certainly tasty (especially good Osetra, Sevruga, and Beluga) it is also appallingly expensive, and the animal it comes from (nominally beluga) is getting close to being completely wiped out.

    I personally think Sushi is overrated (prepares for the backlash)

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    Caviar is gooooood. Where would be Christmas day breakfast without caviar?

    Oysters though, are a different thing. I quite like them, but paying such a fortune for a glorified mussel is a bit silly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    You mean caviare, or roe? "Fish eggs" ? What is next - "chicken boobs"??

    Sorry Lemur for not taking a liking to caviare, but believe me, there is much more to its taste than you make it sound... Have you tried it - I would think you did, but one never knows...
    What's the big difference? Dude, I've had both, neither time was it optional, and both times did it suck something awful. If I remmeber the terminology correctly, I recall "roe" being the tiny ones, which were barely tolerable, being like squishy beads soaked in saltwater, and "caviar" I assume was the big fat things that tasted and felt like fish testicles exploding in my mouth.

    I'll take the meat, thanks.

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    Meh, acquired taste .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizashi View Post
    I don't mind Caviar, although I have mixed feelings about it, on an ethical level. While it is certainly tasty (especially good Osetra, Sevruga, and Beluga) it is also appallingly expensive, and the animal it comes from (nominally beluga) is getting close to being completely wiped out.
    For one, Salmon roe is relatively cheap, plentiful and actually tastes better than the three you mentioned because the black caviare is so fudging small that I cannot taste it . As much as I try to crush it with my teeth to release the inside flavour, all I can do is simply swallow it whole - no fun there . I honestly do not see how anyone can taste the black roe unless they prick each egg with a pin...

    EDIT: Ooops, sorry, did not notice the blatant double post...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizashi View Post
    I personally think Sushi is overrated (prepares for the backlash)
    Suish is not too overrated in Japan. They're reasonably cheap and they're good. I like it, though I admit I wouldn't eat them everyday.

    Quote Originally Posted by SwordsMaster View Post
    Oysters though, are a different thing. I quite like them, but paying such a fortune for a glorified mussel is a bit silly...
    Good oysters are really good. And quite cheap as well.

    I think Beef is overrated. I personally prefer pork much more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    For one, Salmon roe is relatively cheap, plentiful and actually tastes better than the three you mentioned because the black caviare is so fudging small that I cannot taste it . As much as I try to crush it with my teeth to release the inside flavour, all I can do is simply swallow it whole - no fun there . I honestly do not see how anyone can taste the black roe unless they prick each egg with a pin...
    It's a bit funny that I feel the same way about Salmon Roe, as you do about Sturgeon Roe. Salmon Roe is too granular for my taste, I can never seem to actually get my teeth to make contact. Whereas, I've always believed Sturgeon roe (mind you GOOD Sturgeon Roe, which could put a relatively rich guy in the poorhouse fairly quickly) is very distinctive, and the eggs are big enough that you can taste the individual flavor.

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    Caviare is much cheaper in Russia. I have tried the true black sturgeon roe that is banned from being imported into most Western Nations. All I can say is that it is too granular. I have no idea what sort of black roe you have tried... For one, I do not know if the sturgeon came from Aral Sea or rivers.

    Salmon roe is the largest I have seen out of all the fish roes .
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    I picked up a tin of Beluga while staying at an impressive hotel near the waterfront in Sevastapol, put me back around 20,000 UAH. While it was definitely very, very high quality it was also horrendously expensive and unnecessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizashi View Post
    I picked up a tin of Beluga while staying at an impressive hotel near the waterfront in Sevastapol, put me back around 20,000 UAH. While it was definitely very, very high quality it was also horrendously expensive and unnecessary.
    20,000 Hrivnas? Who do you think you are kidding . When was that? I lived a significant portion of my life in Ukraine. After about mid 1990s the value of the hrivna stabilised somewhat, leading to an exchange rate of roughly 5-6 UAH per 1 USD. Before, Ukraine had the worthless karbovantsi. Meaning that you spent ~$4,000 if you actually paid 20,000 UAH... That is not possible, not unless the crayfish whistle as we Eastern Slavs say.

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    Caviar is a matter of taste. You either like it or you don't - though you also get plenty of elitist stuck up snobs that pretend to like it in order to show off.

    The most overrated food is definitely any kind of "fast food". It's vastly overrated and not worth the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    20,000 Hrivnas? Who do you think you are kidding . When was that? I lived a significant portion of my life in Ukraine. After about mid 1990s the value of the hrivna stabilised somewhat, leading to an exchange rate of roughly 5-6 UAH per 1 USD. Before, Ukraine had the worthless karbovantsi. Meaning that you spent ~$4,000 if you actually paid 20,000 UAH... That is not possible, not unless the crayfish whistle as we Eastern Slavs say.
    this was '03. And no, I'm not kidding. The going rate for beluga can be as high as 5.000USD in Russia proper. I was right near the black sea basin where it's mostly processed, and it still cost me close to 3.800USD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizashi View Post
    this was '03. And no, I'm not kidding. The going rate for beluga can be as high as 5.000USD in Russia proper. I was right near the black sea basin where it's mostly processed, and it still cost me close to 3.800USD.
    What a coincidence. I lived in Ukraine in '03. And I have difficulty believing why you would spend so much money and why it would cost so much... Now, if you found some online sources ...

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    Wikipedia:
    Beluga caviar ranges in price from more than $5,000 per kilogram in the United States to a low of around $250 per kg in Atyrau, Kazakhstan, the major production center.
    I find it difficult to believe that in 2003, the roe could be so expensive inside Ukraine. Five hundred to a thousand dollars a kilo seems close to the truth. But why in the name of Mary and Joseph would you buy a KILO of caviare, especially if you have not tried it before and it was that expensive ?? A one-kilo "tin"?

    Erhm, *cough*unlikely *cough*.

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    good caviar is good.
    Caviar is gooooood
    The question wasn't if it was good , its about being over rated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    The question wasn't if it was good , its about being over rated.
    For the price Wakizashi mentioned, any food but ambrosia itself is overrated. The only thing is that I still do not believe the price he mentioned... Not until he comes back and explains .

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    For the price Wakizashi mentioned
    Maybe he got stung for tourist prices.
    I take it you do know how tourist price works.

    A one-kilo "tin"?
    It comes in 2 kilo tins as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    Maybe he got stung for tourist prices.
    I take it you do know how tourist price works.
    I thought about it too, but come one, what is the chance any non-millionaire would shell out 4k for a kilo-tin of exotic food they have never tried before...


    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    It comes in 2 kilo tins as well.
    You think that is what a person would buy? No one buys a kilo of even salmon roe for personal use. It is impossible Wakizashi purchased a kilogram - that is too much, especially for such an expensive product. It would take weeks to finish that much. What if he found the taste disagreeable, as it was his first time? Sorry, given the current data I find my leg being pulled very uncomfortably... :P

    We need further data from Wakizashi here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    I find it difficult to believe that in 2003, the roe could be so expensive inside Ukraine. Five hundred to a thousand dollars a kilo seems close to the truth. But why in the name of Mary and Joseph would you buy a KILO of caviare, especially if you have not tried it before and it was that expensive ?? A one-kilo "tin"?

    Erhm, *cough*unlikely *cough*.
    I'm not in the business of having the need to explain myself to you, under the circumstances in which I obtained it, and why 1kg was a necessary amount (bought for more than one person), or why I spent as much as I did, if you knew anything about the highest quality, its on a need to know basis, as the seasonal "catch" dictates the price, so any figures you get on the net will give a poor representation of the true price, as all of it is of inferior quality. While it is certainly true, that there are cheaper varieties available, The black sea species, is much rarer than the more commonly found Caspian Sea variant, which runs in the hundreds of dollars, not in the thousands, although they're both considered endangered, the Black Sea Beluga is near total extinction, less so in 03', but it's time has been at an eclipse for quite awhile, as the Russian, and Ukrainian Governments have absolutely zero desire to repopulate the Black Sea. Its not difficult to understand, that even the Ukrainians would much rather import this variety, instead of the exceedingly elusive (and far more expensive) Black Sea Variant. There is another subspecies, but it's even more expensive, and even more difficult to obtain (try closer to $20.000USD or a few years in prison if you're caught with it in the US).

    And I will also note, that not once did I say that this was the first time I've had caviar, it's been something my palate has been very discriminating towards for quite some time. As I have mentioned before, I don't have it anymore, based on ethical grounds, rather than inexperience. I hope this addresses any of your concerns, but if not, I'll let you believe whatever you want. I promise, I'll try to care.

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