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    Default Re: Conservation of Angular Momentum

    Zain, no. Just no.

    Science does NOT require faith. I say it again to make sure you get this: Science does NOT require faith.

    We have scientifical examples, we have theorys, we have a lot of cool stuff. Faith, however, is not among them.

    That is why science is never claiming to be 100% correct. Science is just saying "this is the way we think things works from the scientifical results we have at this time".

    You seem to have got the very basics of science fundamentaly wrong.

    That is the difference between science and religion, science dont claim to know the truth of things. Science strives to LEARN the truth though, and get better at it every minute.

    But no, you will not in your lifetime have science proving any religion, or madman, wrong.

    That is the wonder of this world! If some lunatic wants to believe that the planets spin the way they do because pink elephants stampeted by, then they are free to believe so! Science can not, actually, prove these lunatics are wrong.

    Sure, if someone claims this I might consider him a lunatic from what I have seen of the world, but I can not prove him wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Zain, no. Just no.

    Science does NOT require faith. I say it again to make sure you get this: Science does NOT require faith.

    We have scientifical examples, we have theorys, we have a lot of cool stuff. Faith, however, is not among them.

    That is why science is never claiming to be 100% correct. Science is just saying "this is the way we think things works from the scientifical results we have at this time".

    You seem to have got the very basics of science fundamentaly wrong.

    That is the difference between science and religion, science dont claim to know the truth of things. Science strives to LEARN the truth though, and get better at it every minute.

    But no, you will not in your lifetime have science proving any religion, or madman, wrong.

    That is the wonder of this world! If some lunatic wants to believe that the planets spin the way they do because pink elephants stampeted by, then they are free to believe so! Science can not, actually, prove these lunatics are wrong.

    Sure, if someone claims this I might consider him a lunatic from what I have seen of the world, but I can not prove him wrong.
    If you believe that Big Bang and Evolution as truth, then you must have faith. Like I've said. Life from a rock seems like a fairy tale. Of course I can see how religion would seem that way too. At least my "fairy tale" has an author.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zain View Post
    If you believe that Big Bang and Evolution as truth, then you must have faith. Like I've said. Life from a rock seems like a fairy tale. Of course I can see how religion would seem that way too. At least my "fairy tale" has an author.
    Hmm... I thought I could not make myself more clear, but obviosly I have to.

    Zain, AGAIN, you do NOT understand even the basics of science.

    I do NOT, again and again and again: NOT NOT NOT "believe" that big bang and evolution is "true". I do however consider them the theorys that, as of this date, explains the universe to the best of our abilities.

    Are you able to understand what I am saying?

    So no, obviosly I must not have "faith". If these theorys are changed tomorrow and replaced with better theorys I wouldn't be bothered. It would not, so to say, disturb my circles.

    And about your "fairy tale" as you call it... Does it matter if it has an author or not? If that is the only claim to "truth", you might aswell worship Douglas Adams and the Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Hmm... I thought I could not make myself more clear, but obviosly I have to.

    Zain, AGAIN, you do NOT understand even the basics of science.

    I do NOT, again and again and again: NOT NOT NOT "believe" that big bang and evolution is "true". I do however consider them the theorys that, as of this date, explains the universe to the best of our abilities.

    Are you able to understand what I am saying?

    So no, obviosly I must not have "faith". If these theorys are changed tomorrow and replaced with better theorys I wouldn't be bothered. It would not, so to say, disturb my circles.

    And about your "fairy tale" as you call it... Does it matter if it has an author or not? If that is the only claim to "truth", you might aswell worship Douglas Adams and the Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy.
    Can you see, feel, touch, smell, or taste the Big Bang Theory?

    Then you must believe in it.

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    Default Re: Conservation of Angular Momentum

    I suppose all of mine has been based on my own assumptions as well. It seems if what you say is true, we went from order to disorder and then are going back to order according to Evolution.
    perhaps and then maybe the big bang will repeat itself. Or maybe a giant pink hippo race will eat my brain and destroy everything we hold dear, it is all assumption at some point.

    Kadagar

    many scientists have faith. To be able to support an idea you must believe in it somewhat. if an experiment fails you must have some faith to re-do it.

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