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    And I believe that Science is something I should be able to test and observe. Big Bang is not science.
    I'm sorry, but that isn't correct. It is science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    I'm sorry, but that isn't correct. It is science.

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    How can I test to see if the Big Bang is true? I would definitely enjoy some incite from you CR

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    How can I test to see if the Big Bang is true? I would definitely enjoy some incite from you CR
    Check out the observational evidence section from wiki.

    What I don't understand is why you don't believe in his word?
    Just because a person doesn't believe in your interpretation of the Bible doesn't mean they don't believe in the word of God.

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    Just because a person doesn't believe in your interpretation of the Bible doesn't mean they don't believe in the word of God.
    How can someone do an interpretation of the bible when it appears they havn't even read one?

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    Zain, if you want to discuss matters of theology relating to science, I think perhaps you should study a bit on Einstein, I bet you'd be surprised how considerate he is to both sides of the argument.

    Since you're not interested in discussing the (now) testable theories on The Big Bang ref: Large Hadron Collider. I believe you have absolutely zero desire to stray from the dogma that has been stitched into you, and you know that's fine, but it doesn't go against God to consider science, since there isn't a single verse within the any edition of the bible, that actually discusses science in detail, so it should be considered "open ground".

    But, you're not going to be prove me wrong, so it feels like a waste even writing this.

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    Zain I'm am throughly glad you're sticking to your guns. But I propose this question to you: Does it really matter what mere men say?

    For me my faith and my learning have always been seperate and my faith works on a different plane than all my other learning. When I learn about evolution it doesn't bother me becuase I don't think it matters to my faith.

    I am certianly not perfect but my faith has been swayed more by the actions of people than the actions of science.
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    "Everyone gets everything he wants. I wanted a mission, and for my sins, they gave me one." - Capt. Willard

    The first post had several misconceptions about the laws of thermodynamics, the theories of the big bang and evolution, and the overall concept of the scientific method. If the theories contradicted the laws of thermodynamics, some scientist would have brought this up and debunked the theory. This is how science works. Everything is there to be questioned and scrutinized.

    More disturbing is the fact that Zain puts quite a lot of stock in the Bible, and yet does not have a basic understanding of the history of the separate books or of the canon as a whole. If something was this important to me, I would prefer to have a little more knowledge about how that item came into being. I would definitely want to educate myself on it before trying to use it to debunk something in a completely different field of knowledge. Even Navaros would be appalled at this attempt.

    If you take a literal interpretation of the Bible as fact, your brain has reached heat death. There are many ways God can fit into scientific theories and laws for the faithful. The big bang theorizes on the expansion of the universe, but not the nature of the singularity. Why can't the singularity be God? He is everywhere, after all. "Let there be light": I'm sure there was plenty of light after the Planck epoch. Why can't the gravitation constant or speed of light be part of the framework God set aside for the operation of the world? Why can't human and animal evolution be part of a long process covered in the fifth and sixth "days"?
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