Russia Declares Latitude on Pre-emptive Nuclear Strikes

[Centurion1]

Ap you are making a very broad assumption that borders on liberal elitism. i understand that you are making a joke but it is very stereotypical. You assume that because republicans supported the war we are war mongers. Not necessarily so.

Do you think that woodrow wilson is a jingoistic war monger, because he didn't HAVE to enter WW1 and cause all that death. Is Harry truman a war monger he didn't have to enter korea?

You are making a blanket statement and while i understand the joke you should not make statements like that, especially if you want to appear fair and not an obvious democrat. And i thought you identified with no particular party?

[Husar]

Do you think that woodrow wilson is a jingoistic war monger, because he didn't HAVE to enter WW1 and cause all that death.

Yes, he is, we almost had them...

[Aemilius Paulus]

Ap you are making a very broad assumption that borders on liberal elitism. i understand that you are making a joke but it is very stereotypical. You assume that because republicans supported the war we are war mongers. Not necessarily so.

For one, I am closer to Republicans than to Democrats. I simply dislike the Republican's social stances and their ties to religion. If not for that, I would be a Republican. Secondly, I am not at all assuming, in fact, pointed out that I am not generalising anyone because I am not evaluating the make up of the party. All I look at is the result. And the result is that the Republicans have been the warmongers, along with some of the Democrats as well.

There is absolutely no generalising in the overview of the results. Bush went to Iraq and Afghanistan. The vast majority, if not all Republicans, and even Democrats supported him. So the result was that the Republicans decided to go with war, regardless of their make-up.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Rather tellingly, what started as a discussion of Russian policy has immediately devolved into an argument about the United States.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Rather tellingly, what started as a discussion of Russian policy has immediately devolved into an argument about the United States.

What can you say, I am rather skilled at directing the outrage aimed at my motherland and re-channelling it into Yankee-bashing :P Dear Russia escaped almost unscathed form this thread so far

[Seamus Fermanagh]

...Do you think that woodrow wilson is a jingoistic war monger, because he didn't HAVE to enter WW1 and cause all that death?...

After the publication of the Zimmerman telegram (Kudos to the British for making it happen!), war with Germany was inevitable. Wilson could have refused to ask for a DoW and Congress would have passed one anyway. Wilson could have vetoed it, only to have the veto over-ridden and see himself impeached (and quite probably convicted). The only way Wilson could have NOT led us into WW1 was by resigning from or removed from office. In which case, Thomas Marshall would have become CinC and he would have signed off on the DoW. Effectively, pacifist or not, Wilson did HAVE to enter WW1.