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    Default Re: 1.5 Diplomacy: even more broken than in 1.3...

    Quote Originally Posted by A1_Unit View Post
    So you mean if I put my difficulty off H/H I'll have better diplomacy?
    Some what better diplomacy...

    The difficulty settings only seem to make the AI more aggressive and more stubborn. They may also increase the amount of money the AI gets but I am not sure about that.

    Battle difficulties give combat bonuses.


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    Money is great for getting trade agreements but for alliances I have found that offering techs sometimes works better. I tend to stay away from giving military/naval ones except to small nations I am trying to build up. Industrial ones are preferable to me since their lands will hopefully be richer when I take them.

    I play on normal so I don't how diplomacy works on the harder difficulties but on normal I can usually come up with an agreement of some sort. It just takes some haggling and patience. If you can't get anywhere now, try a couple of turns later. I found this much much harder to do in 1.3. It takes work sometimes but that seems right to me.

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    Default Re: 1.5 Diplomacy: even more broken than in 1.3...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    Some what better diplomacy...

    The difficulty settings only seem to make the AI more aggressive and more stubborn. They may also increase the amount of money the AI gets but I am not sure about that.

    Battle difficulties give combat bonuses.
    There used to be a list of difficulty level modifiers compiled by Alpaca on twcenter.net, but I have not seen an updated version lately.

    The AI definitely gets cash bonuses on harder difficulties; their building costs are lower + they get considerable 'discount' on research costs; also, AI's move points get beefed up quite a bit on higher difficulties.

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    And the ability to sometimes walk through my army's interception zone. :P

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    Default Re: 1.5 Diplomacy: even more broken than in 1.3...

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaists View Post
    There used to be a list of difficulty level modifiers compiled by Alpaca on twcenter.net, but I have not seen an updated version lately.

    The AI definitely gets cash bonuses on harder difficulties; their building costs are lower + they get considerable 'discount' on research costs; also, AI's move points get beefed up quite a bit on higher difficulties.
    Humm....

    Alpaca is both here and at TWC but maybe it is only posted there.

    As to the values, as you point out they have not been updated recently.

    I know that all research has been slowed. The AI’s may be quicker than the players still I would guess.

    If you know where to find that post of the differences I would like to read it.


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    Default Re: 1.5 Diplomacy: even more broken than in 1.3...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    Humm....

    Alpaca is both here and at TWC but maybe it is only posted there.

    As to the values, as you point out they have not been updated recently.

    I know that all research has been slowed. The AI’s may be quicker than the players still I would guess.

    If you know where to find that post of the differences I would like to read it.
    Here you go: Alpaca's original post on campaign difficulty modifiers in 1.2.

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    Default Re: 1.5 Diplomacy: even more broken than in 1.3...

    Thanks Slaists!

    I see you already asked the obvious question!

    Thanks again.


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