We Need To Be Protecting The Children From The Sex

[Ironside]

Speak for yourself, I cannot think of something more civilized than the right to carry guns.

One hallmark of civilization IMO is when the average person is offered a gun for self-defense would simply look at the gun oddly and then ask "Why?", and be sane about it.

That's funny. Especially considering that firearms are the great equalizer.

Aren't the strongmen the ones that outlaw the possession of weapons to secure their grip on power?

Linked with the answer above, if normal people don't need guns for self-defense, who would need it? Criminals and those who like showing off how cool/strong/tough they are (preferably after a few beers). Hardly the category of people you want to have guns.
Thus banning guns can be done by the goverment without it being a move to secure their grip on power.

To summarize this part of the gun debate. European and American gun philosophy is different. There, back on topic.

[Vladimir]

It's not philosophy, it's culture. And, like always, the anti-gun crowd uses emotion and hyperbole to make their point. Why would the average person own a firearm? You don't want to know because you've been told and don't want to believe it.


Oh...No, we have no functioning justice system. It's like Mad Max here. Criminals flaunt their AKs openly and gangs of motorcycle warriors rule the street.

[Fragony]

One hallmark of civilization IMO is when the average person is offered a gun for self-defense would simply look at the gun oddly and then ask "Why?", and be sane about it.

With what right do you deny something to someone, government can't deliver, but they love to deny things. They have the right idea these in yankland.

[AlexanderSextus]

Apparently in europe you guys must not have criminals, like the ones in the first post of this thread, whose sole intent is to harm, maim, and kill, without prejudice.

Sometimes, when the cops get to the scene, it is too late.

Even in countries that have "banned" guns entirely, people still get shot. It might be less, but it doesn't eliminate gun crime.

The fact of the matter is, as long as guns exist, there will be gun crime, so as far as i'm concerned, a policy of Mutually Assured Destruction is a far better deterrent than Disarmament.