1.5 Diplomacy: even more broken than in 1.3...

[DisruptorX]

No we didn't play the same games because I never had any problem with M2TW diplomacy or RTW diplomacy.

I didn't buy ETW at its initial release but I'll take your word for it that the diplomacy was working.

Also, I've been modding my startpos.esf for a mod and I've found that removing regions from a faction's victory conditions will stop suicidal assaults against that region.

I wouldn't say I had any problem with them per se. Because there really wasn't anything to them. You could count on fighting everyone in a big brawl. Sometimes alliances worked, but it was very rare.

Diplomacy was working in the original release of ETW, but as many on this site have commented elsewhere, it was very powerful. You could get what you wanted without much trouble. Obviously, if you wanted a challenge, the diplomacy system was somewhat lacking, and I sympathize with that opinion. I still preferred the easy and working diplomacy system to the broken patched one, though.

[NimitsTexan]

I wouldn't say I had any problem with them per se. Because there really wasn't anything to them. You could count on fighting everyone in a big brawl. Sometimes alliances worked, but it was very rare.

Diplomacy was working in the original release of ETW, but as many on this site have commented elsewhere, it was very powerful. You could get what you wanted without much trouble. Obviously, if you wanted a challenge, the diplomacy system was somewhat lacking, and I sympathize with that opinion. I still preferred the easy and working diplomacy system to the broken patched one, though.

There were some problems with original diplomacy . . . for one, the Trading Card attitude of the AI toward provinces . . . Thirteen Colonies, for example, continually trading Boston to France for Martinique.

[Fisherking]

What the AI seems to know is that making some of those silly trades will prevent a war down the line.

But the AI has all the attitudes of a chiseling skinflint and a shyster.

I won’t cover some of the silly land deals offered but Prussia kept asking for 20 years military access and 1300 cash for 10 year military access. They thought up the offer by the way. I had no need of military access to their regions.

And yes they finally went to war over it...

[NimitsTexan]

Sometimes the AI seems smart enough to know when it needs military access to get to an enemy. As Britain had to go reconquer Hannover from Sweden. Austria was at war with UP, and the only way to them was through Hannover, so they kept demanding military access from me until finally DoWing over it.

[Fisherking]

granting access is not near as dangerous as in previous TWs.

It may even give you more safety as I have never been betrayed by someone having access past 1.1.