The Thirty Years War [Concluded]

[Centurion1]

Saxony welcomes all nations in trade and encourages them to stay away from northern germany.

[Double A]

I'm sure you and Sweden will have a really fun time up there with each other.

And your 600$ income will surely go a long way.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I am going to suggest that at the end of the round we all declare our alliances. should be interesting to see what bloc's have formed.


also, no one likes a kill joy Double A

[Centurion1]

hmmm, i have a few tricks up my sleeve........

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Galeers(that's Estonian version actually;in English they are called Galleys) can be built only in Mediterranean sea regions.

I ask you to ignore this line. They were in before but I changed them into Galleons(can be recruited everywhere).

[Double A]

I am going to suggest that at the end of the round we all declare our alliances. should be interesting to see what bloc's have formed.


also, no one likes a kill joy Double A

Don't worry, I have one for France, as well as you!

France needs to declare war on Spain to take 2 hexes and unite it's tri-province, and until it does just that it will lost a 25% bonus. And to "unify" Scotland and get whatever it's bonus is for unification, you need to declare war on Denmark AND make a transport ship just to get 1 hex.

On the bright side, France is pretty damn big, and England's on a freaking island!

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Don't worry, I have one for France, as well as you!

France needs to declare war on Spain to take 2 hexes and unite it's tri-province, and until it does just that it will lost a 25% bonus. And to "unify" Scotland and get whatever it's bonus is for unification, you need to declare war on Denmark AND make a transport ship just to get 1 hex.

On the bright side, France is pretty damn big, and England's on a freaking island!

Nahh, Diplomacy is the true way to unite your land me and Denmark already worked out a deal.

[Chaotix]

Indeed, there will be no war between England and Denmark. One might say we are rather... friendly.

[Double A]

You know, if you put a port there it touches 3 sea regions. That's a bit of a waste, I'd say. You better be getting something pretty freaking sweet if you're giving that up. More money for the Swedes to pillage?

[Chaotix]

Meh. I'll be rolling in cash from my land in Norway and colonial trade via Iceland anyway. Military support from a prosperous ally, on the other hand... now that is something quite valuable. Money is not a problem for you Turks, but up here in Europe it is quite scarce... and an alliance which controls it is an alliance that controls the game.

The Swedes won't be pillaging much of anything if they know what's good for them.

[Double A]

Hmmm it is quite hot down here... starts fanning self with solid gold fan

Author's note: I'm just being a jerk because all of you deny the One True Faith! (aka I'm roleplaying! )

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Haven't received orders from:

Subotan (France)
johnhughthom (Savoy)
Csargo (Austria)
SSNeoperestroika (Transylvania)
White_eyes:D (Muscovy)
scottishranger (Sweden)
Centurion1 (Saxony)
A Very Super Market (Bohemia)
miotas (Portugal)
Askthepizzaguy (Switzerland)

It's just a little reminder

[miotas]

Another question :seatdrop:

Can I order troops or ships to perform an action in the turn I recruit them?

eg.
Orders
1. Move Royal army north 2 hexes.
2. Build City in Aquitane on hex 4
3. Send spy to Austria to Gather Info on their Economy.
4. Increase Royal Court
5. Recruit transport
6. Move transport north 6 hexes

[Beskar]

Yes you can.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

It was asked before "how battles are resolved"?

I'll try to explain that part of the game as well. Sry, that it wasn't in the Manual but it's difficult explain this system.

FYI, there is one system for the naval battles and one for the land battles.
Also, I will explain how retraining/repairing system works.

Just give me some time to write it down.

Why I explain those systems? It's because you can set your own battlemap strategies.

EDIT: Never thought that it's that hard to write them down!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

This is the simplest way I can explain battle system.
I hope this helps you to understand how battles work in this game.
Naval battles part will be added soon though it uses similar system.

Land Battles

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1. If two enemy armies enter adjacent hexes or on the same hex then battle is fought.
2. The battle is fought on a 10*10 hex based map.

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Battlemap with deployment areas.

3. The side(upper or lower) is randomly decided.
4. Default unit placement:

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1) 3rd line: Artillery(behind all other units)
2) 2nd line: Pikemen, Infantry
3) 1st line: Musketeers, Arquebusiers(front line units)
4) Wings: Cavalry

5. Unit stat explanation:

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1) Fire - distance how far unit can shoot(Field Artillery also reduces Morale).
2) Moves - how many hexes unit can move(Artillery can't move during the battle).
3) Attack - strength of the attack(Cavalry reduces Infantry(except Pikemen,Tercio, Landsknecht, Swiss Pikemen) Morale when they attack)
4) Defence - units defence strength(Pikemen get +1 when attacked by Cavalry)
5) Morale - when it reaches 0 then unit will rout.

6. Battle has Fire/Attack and Move rounds.
7. Battle starts with Fire round when all units with Fire ability shoot the closest enemy unit.
8. Move round - All units(except Artillery) move forward.
9. Fire/Attack round - All units without fire ability will Attack while those who has it use Fire.
10. If two units from one army stand adjacent hexes and attack one unit from the other army then their attack will be merged.
11. The same goes for defence.
12. Infantry unit loses 1 Morale per every 200 dead soldier. Cavalry unit loses 1 Morale per every 100 dead soldier.
13. Army who manages to rout the other one wins the battle.
14. All Players can create their own battle formations but they will be used only when Generals/Rulers lead their Armies.

Retraining

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1. Cheap Way- Each turn 100 men will be automatically(without fee) added to every unit that is below their maximum strength.
2. Expensive Way - Pay 1/10 of the unit cost per every 100 soldier.
(Example: Pikemen cost 400$(1/10 is 40$). If that unit needs 200 soldiers you could pay 80$ to bring that unit back into full shape.
3. Retraining don't use order slots.

Siege Battles

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1. Attacking army needs Siege Artillery and it must be positioned like this:

Fort(City)|empty hex|Siege Artillery

2. As long as the Siege Artillery remains on it's position then each turn Fort(City) will loose 1 point from it's strength.
3. Default strength of the Fort is 5 and default strength of the city is 2.
4. When the strength of the Fort is reduced, attacker can send Infantry units to attack the fort.
5. In that case, battle, similar to land battle, will follow.
6. The lower the strength of the Fort, the less defensive cannons it has(and the more "holes in the wall" it has).

Naval Battles

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1. If two enemy fleets enter adjacent hexes or on the same hex then battle is fought.
2. The battle is fought on a 10*10 hex based map.

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Naval Battle map.

3. Before the battle, wind direction is randomly chosen(N, NW, SW, S, SE, NE).
4. If ship moves upwind it receives -2 movement penalty, if downwind then receives +2 movement bonus.
5. Ships are placed on the battlemap just like they were on political map.
6. Ship stat explanation:

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1) Moves - how many hexes ship can move.
2) Fire - how far ship can shoot.
3) Hull - strength of the ship.
4) Morale - how many shots crew can put up with before they retreat.

7. Ships can fire only 2 enemy ships per Fire round.
8. Battle starts with Move round and is followed by Move round.
9. The closer the ships, the stronger the shots(Fear the Ship of the Line!).
10. Repairing ships works just like retraining. The only difference is that it's Hull that needs to be repaired.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Cool Good to know. Now all I need is a army

[Splitpersonality]

Same CDF :P

[scottishranger]

Is there anyway you could compile all the info into one post? Its hard to jump back and forth between differant pages for rules.

[Centurion1]

so when does turn end. i sent in orders

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

King James has an announcement to the general assembly.

The Kingdom of England has chosen to Ally itself with the following nations
Saxony
The Netherlands
Denmark
Poland-Lithuania
Portugal

We Are open to talk with all nations about offers of Trade and other diplomatic niceties. We also want it to be known that we have declared war on the remnants of the Irish rebels. They shall fall before The might of English arms. England is open to give loans to all nations which require them, with no time limit on their pay back. We also do not expect normal Interest as such. Rather we shall take 25% of the loan and expect the full payment plus that to be given back at a time of the nations choosing. Our allies can gain the same such loans for only a 10% increase to original price.

(say you want 2000, I want back 2500 at a time of your choosing. I hope this to be helpful to those nations making little income, but hoping for much greater aspirations. No time limit on paying it back, I am laid back like that. Allies can ask for 4000 and only give back 4400, as in 10% instead of the normal 25%.)

[Double A]

Ottomans are also giving out loans, at a much larger maximum and smaller interest rate. Requirements include: being Muslim. Muslim countries also need not pay their full loans back, for they need it more than we. All who praise Allah shall be shined upon!

[johnhughthom]

Are there other Muslim factions?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ottomans are also giving out loans, at a much larger maximum and smaller interest rate. Requirements include: being Orthodox, Catholic, or preferably Muslim. Muslim countries also need not pay their full loans back, for they need it more than we. All who praise Allah shall be shined upon!

You do realize that charging interest on loans is banned in Islam?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Ottomans are also giving out loans, at a much larger maximum and smaller interest rate. Requirements include: being Orthodox, Catholic, or preferably Muslim. Muslim countries also need not pay their full loans back, for they need it more than we. All who praise Allah shall be shined upon!

someone noticed they are the only Muslim faction on the map


Besides my loans don't even HAVE interest rates. It is you get 2000, I expect back 2500. when you pay it back is up to you, Lump sum, small payments, whatever. Its a very good deal, especially if you are my ally.

[Centurion1]

saxony will not be giving out any loans. we will accept any gifts however

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

saxony will not be giving out any loans. we will accept any gifts however

England wishes to voice its support for the unification of Northern Germany under the State of Saxony. It is willing to back the Saxons in this endeavor any any attempt by another nation to disrupt Saxony's attempt at unifying of the area will be considered hostile to England.

[scottishranger]

England needs to mind its own stinkin' business

[Language please - GH]

[Askthepizzaguy]

I understand that England is offering to mind its own business in exchange for a rather large sum of gold...

[Double A]

Being the only Muslim faction in the game just makes me that much better.

'sides, I got the most hexes in the game. It's not like I even need the freaking interest! I'll give out loans to my allies, whoever they may be, at 0% interest. They probably need it more than me. Unless I go to war with Austria.