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    I also didn't know that I couldn't do anything if my Sultan died. That REALLY would have been a good thing to know.

    I would also like to know why I have to declare war before attacking. That really takes out ANY opportunity for a surprise attack.

    At all.
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    King James has been honored, and as he has been so selected, wishes to announce to the nations of Europe the following statement.

    The nations of Poland-Lithuania, The Netherlands, The Kingdom of Saxony, The Kingdom of Denmark, And the Kingdom of England, Have all decided it the proper time to announce the mutual alliances and joining between them into The Northern Alliance. The Network of allied kingdoms has been forming for some time, and have decided now to be a proper and prim time to let all of Europe know of its existence.

    We expect their may be some surprise at this alliance, which has been formed to help create a peaceful balance in Northern and Middle Europe, as well as promote prosperity among all nations. This alliance is Secular in nature, and thus no nation shall be discredited from joining based on religion. All member nations of the alliance are equal, and all have a say in the induction of new nations into its ranks. The Northern Alliance is always willing to allow a new nation among it, and all who so wish may simply talk to a already existing member to vouch for you.

    The Northern alliance does not exist to subsume the independent diplomacy of its member nations and as such separate alliances between member nations and non-members is not frowned upon in the slightest. We are all separate sovereign nations, and our foreign policy is our own to conduct. The Northern alliance is simply a way to show that the member nations have similar overarching goals and are on friendly terms with each other.

    The current member nations of the Northern alliance are as follows;
    The Kingdom of England, Ruled by King James 1st (Cultured Drizzt Fan)
    The Kingdom of Saxony, Ruled by Konig the Great (Centurion1)
    The Kingdom of Denmark, Ruled by King Christian IV (Chaotix)
    The Kingdom of Poland-Lithuania, Ruled by King Zygmunt III (Split)
    The Netherlands, Ruled by Maurice of Nassu (Beskar)



    In closing, I wish to once again stress that the creation of the Northern alliance does not change anything about the foreign policy of the member nations. We all have our own opinions on the politics of the world. However should a member nation be threatened by another then we shall ALL band together to aid our brother. (except under strenuous circumstances due to other binding treaties with non member nations. The Northern alliance does not exist to dictate whether a member can or can not stay neutral)
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    (Well, the Netherlands is going to be pretty neutral and peaceful, as I am by far, the smallest faction, even after I reunited the Netherlands under one banner.)
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    The Kingdom of Sweden views this "Northern Alliance" as a grave threat to our territorial sovereignty. Be assured, we shall be looking for allies to counterbalance this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottishranger View Post
    The Kingdom of Sweden views this "Northern Alliance" as a grave threat to our territorial sovereignty. Be assured, we shall be looking for allies to counterbalance this.

    Great. Moving on..... Suffice to say we are not created in spite of you Sweden. We exist to have a peaceful balance of power in Northern Europe. And each member are there own sovereign nation. We all have separate treaties outside of the alliance, that we honor just as vigorously as the alliance itself. Thats all I really have to say that could placate you.


    Just to recap King James is staying Neutral in any current conflicts going on in Europe. The Franco/Swiss conflict hits us especially hard, as we had wished to remain friendly with both.... So we are remaining neutral, which we hope does not irritate either side....

    Although we are with many others who state the Ottoman Invasion of Austria is foolish and they have no claim to Cristian Europe.
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    Of course, the Saxons should have no rights to take Westphalia, nor do the Dutch to the Rhineland. Only the Bohemian king has claims to the Rhenanian lands.
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    Rhinelands are a vassal state under protection of the dutch armies due to their own free-will. I haven't laid claim to those lands as I, Maurice of Nassu don't own them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double A View Post
    I also didn't know that I couldn't do anything if my Sultan died. That REALLY would have been a good thing to know.

    I would also like to know why I have to declare war before attacking. That really takes out ANY opportunity for a surprise attack.

    At all.
    Your sultans death didn't have anything to do with the loss of those battles. Austrian armies just had better troops.

    And declaration of war is needed so that larger kingdoms(like France) wouldn't steamroll over smaller states(like Savoy was).

    Currently other players can at least try to set up some sort of defence.

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    we the saxon people also wish for nothing but peace.

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    The Kingdom of Sweden views this "Northern Alliance" as a grave threat to our territorial sovereignty. Be assured, we shall be looking for allies to counterbalance this.
    sweden my northern brother, i have nothing but respect for you. There is no need to become angry about the northern alliance. I will still maintain trade with you and our prior arrangements still stand.

    oh and you are going to remove your troops from my land correct? i see you have a ship nearby

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    sweden my northern brother, i have nothing but respect for you. There is no need to become angry about the northern alliance. I will still maintain trade with you and our prior arrangements still stand.

    oh and you are going to remove your troops from my land correct? i see you have a ship nearby
    Yes, my transport ship is moving to take my garrison away. I merely ran out of moves.

    As to the Northern Alliance, Sweden realizes it wasnt created because of us, we also recognize that this is a major power bloc that could be contradictory to Swedish interests.

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    They promised to defend me and since I am really small, I said yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottishranger View Post
    Yes, my transport ship is moving to take my garrison away. I merely ran out of moves.

    As to the Northern Alliance, Sweden realizes it wasnt created because of us, we also recognize that this is a major power bloc that could be contradictory to Swedish interests.

    Fair enough.
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    Question: In a peace treaty, can we swap land that we haven't occupied?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Question: In a peace treaty, can we swap land that we haven't occupied?
    No.

    You need to have the land, to swap it. You could add conditional things like "Once I got the land, we can swap it" or "I will allow you to take that land" sort of thing.
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    Why? That's just silly.

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