Faction List for EB2?

**ziegenpeter** · 11-04-2009, 15:43

Originally Posted by Phalanx300

They aren't a part of the Sweboz roster, you can conquer them and they become part of your regional roster.

I'm pretty sure, they are enabled by the native MIC.

No worries, I understood what you said. I was repying to the continuous lobby made to incluide a Maccabean kingdom 100 yers earlier than it even existed.

As I wrote before: What do we know about the sweboz and casse around 272bc? Not much I think, but they were in. So why not a Maccabean kingdom?

**bobbin** · 11-04-2009, 16:47

Originally Posted by ziegenpeter

As I wrote before: What do we know about the sweboz and casse around 272bc? Not much I think, but they were in. So why not a Maccabean kingdom?

Because we know it didn't exist in 272BC.

**Ludens** · 11-04-2009, 16:50

Originally Posted by ziegenpeter

As I wrote before: What do we know about the sweboz and casse around 272bc? Not much I think, but they were in. So why not a Maccabean kingdom?

Because it didn't exist at all in 272 BC? Jerusalem was at that point controlled by the Ptolemeans. Furthermore, although with hindsight it was very important from a religious perspective, at the time the Maccabean revolt was little more than a local uprising against Seleucid rule. They certainly weren't an expansionist faction, so why give a faction slot to them if they could just as well be simulated by independents?

**ziegenpeter** · 11-04-2009, 17:59

OOOPS! I totally confused the Maccabean kingdom with Meroe... Mea culpa.
Of course a jewish faction would be inapropriated.

**Foot** · 11-04-2009, 22:19

Originally Posted by ziegenpeter

OOOPS! I totally confused the Maccabean kingdom with Meroe... Mea culpa.
Of course a jewish faction would be inapropriated.

Reasons why no Meroe (but please do try searching, as we cannot spend all our time answering the same questions over and over and over again).

1. No Culture Slot - Meroe are an Ethiopian faction, but they would look Arabian.
2. No Provinces - Most of Meroe and its expansion would be off the map. Edge factions are dodgy to begin with.

There are others, but they are not really necessary. The above is enough to express why Meroe aren't in EBII. Comparing the viability of Meroe to that of the Casse and the Sweboz is simplistic.

Foot

**ziegenpeter** · 11-05-2009, 00:07

Originally Posted by Foot

Reasons why no Meroe (but please do try searching, as we cannot spend all our time answering the same questions over and over and over again).

1. No Culture Slot - Meroe are an Ethiopian faction, but they would look Arabian.
2. No Provinces - Most of Meroe and its expansion would be off the map. Edge factions are dodgy to begin with.

There are others, but they are not really necessary. The above is enough to express why Meroe aren't in EBII. Comparing the viability of Meroe to that of the Casse and the Sweboz is simplistic.

Foot

Gotcha. I wasnt arguing FOR Meroe, because I dont care about them that much. I was just generally questioning, but I was also generally confused, so lets drop this

Athanaric, I do agree with you. Thats why I like to have a moding team with the same manner of working as the eb team, working on a mod about a time when germanic tribes were more distinguishable. (Migration period, for example).

**Apázlinemjó** · 11-05-2009, 01:08

I hope an other faction (like Cyrene) will be included near to the Ptolemaic dynasty to bother them, because in most campaigns they don't really have enough playing mates and they become a superpower in the game in no time.