Shooting At Ft.Hood

[Banquo's Ghost]

Very sad and tragic event. My thoughts and condolences go out to the bereaved families.

Doesn't our own Gelatinous Cube serve at Fort Hood? I hope he is OK.

[Fragony]

Yikes just heard of this this is just nasty, rip victims, and something with tongs and meathooks.

[Pannonian]

Very sad and tragic event. My thoughts and condolences go out to the bereaved families.

Doesn't our own Gelatinous Cube serve at Fort Hood? I hope he is OK.

Posted on 6th November 2009, 00:46 GMT.

I don't generally agree with Idaho on much, but I think he's really spot on here. There is no real difference between legal and illegal drugs, aside from the false perceptions and IMMENSE black market.

Legalise everything. Tax everything. Provide proper education and warnings for everything. Let people do what they want to their own bodies.

That said, criminals should still be punished. Lots of drugs ARE addictive, and some junkies would still resort to crime in order to pay for their habit. That's never going to go away, so why not legalise it and at least make the actual drug a non-issue (and, in fact, a gigantic economic boon) and continue to punish crime as normal?

Seriously. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain by ditching the reactionary attitude towards drugs and just legalising, regulating, and taxing them like alcohol and cigarettes.

I think the shock affected GC so much that he's starting to agree with Idaho. If he goes to Afghanistan and gets shell shock, he may even start agreeing with JAG.

[Subotan]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...-shooter-alive

An aide to Kay Bailey Hutchison, a Texas senator who was briefed by generals about the incident, said she had been told Hasan was upset about the deployment at the end of the year. Family and fellow officers said that he complained of harassment by other troops about his Middle Eastern ethnicity and Muslim faith.

Uh-oh.

[Fragony]

This is pretty bad, hope you guys can keep a clear head. A shame he survived best to drop them in a hole and forget all about them

[Subotan]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...-shooter-alive

An aide to Kay Bailey Hutchison, a Texas senator who was briefed by generals about the incident, said she had been told Hasan was upset about the deployment at the end of the year. Family and fellow officers said that he complained of harassment by other troops about his Middle Eastern ethnicity and Muslim faith.

Uh-oh.

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[Devastatin Dave]

SO the general excuse from the blame others crowd is the guy's a pussy who couldn't handle some teasing and, even though he was never involved in combat but just by hearing it made him nuts and went off and killed a dozen folks.

LOL, thats a lot of bull squeeze to swallow to think all this brought him to this point. At the same time the blame others crowd completely refuse to believe that Islam had nothing to do with it.

Oh well, enjoyed the reminder why sometimes common sense has no place in intellectual circles. I hope the moon barker gets lined up in front of a firing squad regardless of how the bleeding hearts think he's a victim.

[Hax]

SO the general excuse from the blame others crowd is the guy's a pussy who couldn't handle some teasing and, even though he was never involved in combat but just by hearing it made him nuts and went off and killed a dozen folks.

There's a difference between "some teasing", which is virtually irremovable in any society, and constant harrassment, each and every day over an extended period of time.

LOL, thats a lot of bull squeeze to swallow to think all this brought him to this point. At the same time the blame others crowd completely refuse to believe that Islam had nothing to do with it.

No, harrassment has to do with stuff. It's degrading. It's really a precarious time for people who look Arab.

[Hosakawa Tito]

According to some accounts, the shooter's anti-mission feelings were known by some, but political correctness got in the way of reporting/acting on the warning signs. The Article.

The quote:

Danquah assumed the military's chain of command knew about Hasan's doubts, which had been known for more than a year to classmates in a graduate military medical program. His fellow students complained to the faculty about Hasan's "anti-American propaganda," but said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim student kept officers from filing a formal written complaint.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

SO the general excuse from the blame others crowd is the guy's a pussy who couldn't handle some teasing and, even though he was never involved in combat but just by hearing it made him nuts and went off and killed a dozen folks.

LOL, thats a lot of bull squeeze to swallow to think all this brought him to this point. At the same time the blame others crowd completely refuse to believe that Islam had nothing to do with it.

Oh well, enjoyed the reminder why sometimes common sense has no place in intellectual circles. I hope the moon barker gets lined up in front of a firing squad regardless of how the bleeding hearts think he's a victim.

I believe they use a hanging for this kind of offense, though I haven't checked in a while.

Okay, having checked, it is now apparent that lethal injection would be the likely method. No Danny Deever or "Don't make a mess of it" stuff.

[Ironside]

SO the general excuse from the blame others crowd is the guy's a pussy who couldn't handle some teasing and, even though he was never involved in combat but just by hearing it made him nuts and went off and killed a dozen folks.

LOL, thats a lot of bull squeeze to swallow to think all this brought him to this point. At the same time the blame others crowd completely refuse to believe that Islam had nothing to do with it.

Oh well, enjoyed the reminder why sometimes common sense has no place in intellectual circles. I hope the moon barker gets lined up in front of a firing squad regardless of how the bleeding hearts think he's a victim.

Considering that he had at least about 8 years to plan out his evil plan and ended up with massacre+attemted suecide by military, we can either conclude that he was very incompetent on that area or radicalized over the years. Considering that all accounts points at option B, a very interesting follow up question is why he started to radicalize, as in there lies the answer on how to prevent this in the future.

Without using the bull squeeze as you put it, why would he go nuts by simply getting redeployed in a combat zone? He would not kill muslims, so his faith was not in danger. And why would he stay in a organisation that kills muslims if radical Islam was his only motivator?

Going amature shrink

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I would guess that he got extremely freaked out by the idea of going to a combat zone due to what he heard. In an attemt to justify it, he turned deeper into Islam to give him an excuse for this, while still keeping a loyalty to the military. When getting order to redeploy, he couldn't keep it together anymore and caused this tragedy in an attemted suecide.

But we'll see what the proffesionals can piece together in time

[Fragony]

Does it matter really why he snapped, I'll start caring about that if it turns out there is any sort of organization behind it. Right now it's just a madman, people aren't going to get any satisfactory answers and should stop looking imho, religious nut or not in the end just a nut. What I find shocking is that all the signals were right in their face all the time and they didn't do anything, not because they didn't see it but because they were afraid to speak out because of pc-mania. In a way leftist lemmings have the blood of these soldiers on their hands this wouldn't have happened without the suffocating social control that is political correctness.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Very sad and tragic event. My thoughts and condolences go out to the bereaved families.

Doesn't our own Gelatinous Cube serve at Fort Hood? I hope he is OK.

I believe GC is convalescing from an injury and probably wouldn't be in that part of the base. Hopefully he'll check in and tell us his experience with the lock-down, the base is huge like a small city.

So the shooter survived, that is good. He deserves execution.

[Fragony]

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So the shooter survived, that is good. He deserves execution.

Not good, this is going to be a huge case with megaphones on all sides, him surviving is probably the worst thing that could have happened, every lunatic is going to make a point out of this from fuzzywuzzies to guncrazy militia's.