phalangitai... too few spears?

[tarem]

Are you referring to the translation error by Livy when he misread Polybius who meant that they lowered their pikes?

no not lowered (as in deployed for combat). the text i read said they actually dropped them to the ground and fought with swords instead.

[Karamazovmm]

Air Fuel Bombs fall under

over ty enemy!

and about the afvs, yes I got that wrong, sorry about that!

and yes it's pretty general, your and my assertion about the modernity use of the "phalanx", because in our time we have different vehicles for doing the same job, and each one has its strengths and weaknesses and you have to balance it (captain obvious reporting to bridge!)

nevermind that, the general I'm currently searching for a enciclopedia of battles that I have in pdf at my pc, current status not found and really pissed about it. Probably I can up for you to see, the other texts, well they are going to published by a college of mine, and as such he didn't give me the permission to pass to you, when it's realesed you can go to muse and download it, while you're there go and search battles+ancient+greek, but if you want some of my work (may not be in there database, but worth a try) Resource Wars and its Impacts over Human Rights: Study Case of the Liberia Civil War (1989-2003)

[Mindaros]

no not lowered (as in deployed for combat). the text i read said they actually dropped them to the ground and fought with swords instead.

Yes, but was the text written by Polybius or by Livy?

[tarem]

Yes, but was the text written by Polybius or by Livy?

i've been searching through the bibliography and i'm still not sure. the author uses Badian E. as a refference who in turn mentiones Polybius, but can't tell if it's direct translation or an interpretation from another hystorian

[Mindaros]

i've been searching through the bibliography and i'm still not sure. the author uses Badian E. as a refference who in turn mentiones Polybius, but can't tell if it's direct translation or an interpretation from another hystorian

The source would be useful to know, since iirc it is in that battle that Livy makes the translation error.

[tarem]

The source would be useful to know, since iirc it is in that battle that Livy makes the translation error.

i finally located the source used in the book on the net:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20948552/B...oscephalae-197

and

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/txt/ah/Livy/Livy33.html

it seams you were right, it looks like the translation you mentioned