Child dies due to faith healing; parents get 6 months of jail time

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Who cares?

My point is jail time for the both of them, why on earth you think I care in the slightest about which law paragraph is used to convict them is quite frankly beyond my imagination.

The punishement should fit the crime, the Law should be just. Two reasons why you should care.

Anyway, we Norwegians thankfully drew our bureaucratic ideals from the french, we have none of these silly english concepts, and here they would stand trial for murder, as explained earlier. Manslaughter is what we call it when someone is run over by a car, we call it murder when a punch goes wrong and results in death, a baby is shaken to death or when someone denies their child medical care.

Ironic, given that our Law draws heavily on Danish and Norwegian concepts.

[HoreTore]

The punishement should fit the crime, the Law should be just. Two reasons why you should care.

......And that's exactly why I object to 6 months of "jail" for killing your own daughter.

[Rhyfelwyr]

......And that's exactly why I object to 6 months of "jail" for killing your own daughter.

Since you believe doing time is all about rehabilitation, what do you propose for these parents that would actually make them healthy members of society?

[HoreTore]

Since you believe doing time is all about rehabilitation, what do you propose for these parents that would actually make them healthy members of society?

I'm all about rehabilitation, and I also have a deep hatred of locking people away.

Unfortunately, I'm also a big fan of "everyone being equal before the law". This case will be an exception, good for them, but bad for the rest of us. They should, of course, get the same punishment any other person gets for killing another human being in their state.

How high I want the sentence to be is really beyond the question.

Here is another example of child neglect, like that in this case. 15 years in prison, and they didn't even kill their child. Their fault was to get high on pills, not Jesus, as that gets you a free pass to whack your kids. Somebody should've told 'em....

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I'm all about rehabilitation, and I also have a deep hatred of locking people away.

Unfortunately, I'm also a big fan of "everyone being equal before the law". This case will be an exception, good for them, but bad for the rest of us. They should, of course, get the same punishment any other person gets for killing another human being in their state.

How high I want the sentence to be is really beyond the question.

Here is another example of child neglect, like that in this case. 15 years in prison, and they didn't even kill their child. Their fault was to get high on pills, not Jesus, as that gets you a free pass to whack your kids. Somebody should've told 'em....

There is a very different intent there, these parents were not "neglectful" in the same since. They believed they were doing the right thing, the best thing. Intent must be taken into account.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

......And that's exactly why I object to 6 months of "jail" for killing your own daughter.

No, because intent is important, hence the importance of the mens rea.

[HoreTore]

There is a very different intent there, these parents were not "neglectful" in the same since. They believed they were doing the right thing, the best thing. Intent must be taken into account.

No, because intent is important, hence the importance of the mens rea.

Intent would've made it worse, but this is still bad enough.

And yes they were neglectful in the same way. What the difference between food and medicine? What's the difference between being high on drugs and jesus?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Intent would've made it worse, but this is still bad enough.

And yes they were neglectful in the same way. What the difference between food and medicine? What's the difference between being high on drugs and jesus?

I dunno, what's the difference between being high on Jesus and being high on Socialism?

[jabarto]

They believed they were doing the right thing, the best thing.

How can you possibly substantiate that?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

How can you possibly substantiate that?

They believed God heals people, not medicine, so they prayed instead of going to a doctor.

Ergo, they tried to do the best thing. Prove otherwise, criminal cases presume innocence.